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Old May 31 2013, 01:01 AM   #1
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So, I'm writing a Pern crossover fic (because it's not like I have essays due or anything...) and I'm kind of coming up against a few minor things, so I'm looking for some more opinions.

Firstly, if someone from modernish earth found a pair of firelizards and built them an enclosure underground with artificial sunlight, would they still rise to mate? My understanding is that dragons seem to require sunlight to some degree or other. Is this likely to apply to firelizards?

Secondly, if someone from modernish earth found a firelizard (and obviously they wouldn't have read the Pern books), what would they call it? Can I get away with calling them firelizards? Would dragonets be better? What if they already have dragons? Wouldn't calling them dragonets then be confusing?

At what point, assuming you're a top secret scientific research type person do you announce that you've found a species of magical, telepathic, teleporting lizards from another planet? As soon as the first appears? Once you've discovered everything there is to know? Once the dragons show up?
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Old May 31 2013, 06:40 AM   #2
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So, I'm writing a Pern crossover fic (because it's not like I have essays due or anything...) and I'm kind of coming up against a few minor things, so I'm looking for some more opinions.

Firstly, if someone from modernish earth found a pair of firelizards and built them an enclosure underground with artificial sunlight, would they still rise to mate? My understanding is that dragons seem to require sunlight to some degree or other. Is this likely to apply to firelizards?
No, because it doesn't apply to dragons. Dragons like to bask in the sun, and the sun can enhance a female dragon's colour/help get her in the mood, making her rise either unexpectedly or a bit earlier than she might have done otherwise, but it's not something she needs. Think of it as a bit of a mild aphrodisiac if anything at all.

I'd be more worried about the lack of sunlight giving them the equivalent of vitamin d deficiency

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Secondly, if someone from modernish earth found a firelizard (and obviously they wouldn't have read the Pern books), what would they call it? Can I get away with calling them firelizards? Would dragonets be better? What if they already have dragons? Wouldn't calling them dragonets then be confusing?
They don't have scales, so I'd avoid any lizard terminology. Mini-dragons? Dragonlings?

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When you have your Nature paper accepted for publication and the relevant umbrella patent applications submitted. I'd say six months to a year.
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I would think from a distance - even just eight or ten feet - the scales would not be apparent and they would appear lizard-like.

I'd avoid any reference to fire until they start chewing firestone!
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Hmm. I'd planned to provide vitamin d through their diet, primarily in the form of fish. Do you think that's likely to be insufficient?

Also, are you sure dragons don't require sunlight to mate? I thought I'd remembered seeing a couple of quotes to that effect. I might have been wrong, or misremembered I suppose, but I didn't think so.

Dragonlings might work. I've also just discovered "-aster", which is apparently a once common, now rare and somewhat insulting suffix to basically indicate a lesser copy (a pejorative to denote resemblance). So Dragonaster, Dragaster, Drak(e)aster/Drac(o)aster... Although I don't really think it works with any of these stems. I'll have to think about it some more.

Also, apparently dragonet is the official word for a small dragon. I still don't really like it though. Too confusing.

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When you have your Nature paper accepted for publication and the relevant umbrella patent applications submitted. I'd say six months to a year.
Awesome. That actually would work really well in terms of timeline. I want firelizards to be something that most people don't really know about during the time period I'm writing about, and I was worried I'd have to come up with an excuse to keep them top secret for almost twenty years. A report that's published, and interesting but not groundbreaking, could well make the rounds for a year or two, then be forgotten and languish in obscurity in a cabinet for a decade before it suddenly gains relevance again.

I think that on the whole, most people don't actually know anything about most species of animals, so a report that a new species of (reptile?) has been discovered would probably provoke only a few weeks of interest from the general public before they put it out of their minds.

Or at least that makes sense to me.

Also, just to be completely sure, the patent applications would be on the paper, right? Not the firelizards.


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I'd avoid any reference to fire until they start chewing firestone!
My chief problem is that several have been captured and studied, so the lack of scales would become quite obvious, I think, before they got a name attached.

Was firestone a real thing or a Pern thing? It's only just occurred to me to wonder.
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Well, Michelle, what do modern fire breathing critters use to bring on the flame?????

PS: I hope you don't live in the Berhampore/Kingston areas??
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Well, Michelle, what do modern fire breathing critters use to bring on the flame?????

PS: I hope you don't live in the Berhampore/Kingston areas??
Napalm.

No, I live in Khandallah. I worked in Berhampore for a couple of months though (just long enough to become quite fond of one of the cafes).
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