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Old Mar 4 2006, 04:40 AM   #2
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Default Re: This has nothing to do with anything but...

Geertrui is actualy a shortened version of Geertruida and Geertruida is the Dutch version of Gertrude.

You pronounce it like this:
- gere: as Richard's family name but pronounced throathy/hard G)
- trui: regular "tr" but the Dutch "ui" sound...

This syllable has absolutely no counterpart in English.

One book says it's a "reduced schwa." That helps a lot, doesn't it?! They say to pronounce it like "uh-ee" said together quickly.

One web reference had the following formula, which I really like:
Put your lips in position to say "ee". Your lips will be stretched horizontally and you'll be smiling (that's why photographers tell you to say "cheese").
Keep your lips in the "ee" position.
With the rest of your mouth, say "oo".
Out comes this weird sound, but it's the one you want.

Step three is the hardest part. When you say "oo" your lips just want to spring back to a round O shape out of habit. You may actually have to hold your lips in place with your thumb and index finger the first few times you try this

best thing is to search for someone speaking Dutch and have them pronouce UI for you, so you'll know what it sounds like. Easy if you live in parts of the US where many Dutch immigrants moved to, nit so easy elsewhere
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