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Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Oct 8 2010, 10:48 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 5,653
Posted By proserpine
Re: Song in Moreta: chapter I

Well, except Moreta is already saying the first line of the song when Holth takes off:

Wearily the old queen gathered herself to spring. Moreta gratefully began her litany.

"Black, blacker,...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Jul 8 2010, 03:39 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 13,055
Posted By proserpine
Re: Can a HAD 'turn it off'?

That second quote, where Aramina hears something sad, could be referring to the dolphins, who in DoP are sad that humans don't interact with them any more. They, however, can't communicate with...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 12 2010, 12:09 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 16,342
Posted By proserpine
Re: Time travel

I don't think that's Pern. People who are double timing always feel it no matter how close they are physically, but they don't feel violent toward their contemporary self, just physically exhausted...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 25 2010, 05:13 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 6,217
Posted By proserpine
Re: Give me down to there hair

The thing with that mullet though: Tai lives on the Southern Continent, so why doesn't she cut all of it short?
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 25 2010, 05:08 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 4,032
Posted By proserpine
Re: Odd reading order

I tend to pick them up randomly, and since I've read most of them so many times, I also just tend to read the parts I liked the best out of them rather than the whole thing. For example, most of TWD...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 23 2010, 07:51 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,235
Posted By proserpine
Re: When did Menolly write the Firelizard song.

I didn't miss that, Brenda, I just didn't feel it was necessary to bring it up again as it is mentioned in another post. I also didn't think it was too much of a stretch of the imagination to...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 22 2010, 11:01 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 4,619
Posted By proserpine
Re: Dinner and a movie

I would like to be trapped on an island with Dragonflight era F'nor, because he is sexy and also he has a dragon and can get us off the damn island super easy like.
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 22 2010, 10:34 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 9,022
Posted By proserpine
Re: Third Pass Names

Maybe not Benden or Telgar, since those actually ARE place names and thus probably less popular, but family names or kids named after famous people seem fairly reasonable, especially since it has...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 22 2010, 10:15 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,235
Posted By proserpine
Re: When did Menolly write the Firelizard song.

Okay, so this is an old thread, but I got redirected here from a NEW thread (http://www.annemccaffreyfans.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20655) at the KT, so here goes.



Actually, when you go back...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 21 2010, 04:59 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 6,217
Posted By proserpine
Re: Give me down to there hair

Her hair "a midbrown sparking with red as she moved, was clipped short on top to reduce sweating under her helmet. Left long at the nape of her neck, the wavy mass reached halfway down her back,...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 20 2010, 11:35 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 6,217
Posted By proserpine
Give me down to there hair

So . . . dragonrider hair cuts. I know Moreta cut hers short, F'lar wears it almost shoulder length, and Tai sports a wicked sweet mullet. In the Guide it says they generally keep it buzzed...
Forum: Exhibit Hall Mar 7 2010, 03:25 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 2,616
Posted By proserpine
Re: Picture request

Page number? I have no idea what scene you are talking about.
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 6 2010, 12:02 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 9,022
Posted By proserpine
Re: Third Pass Names

If the traditional Pernese name is a mix of both parents' names, then it's also entirely possible to arrive at "Earth" names like Davin or Kelly or whatever just through parents named David and Ellen...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Feb 19 2010, 06:22 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 9,972
Posted By proserpine
Re: Travel time, trade caravan, with no Threadfall.

My extensive experience playing Oregon Trail tells me that the trip from Independence, Missouri, to Portland, Oregon, took about three months and four family members to travel the 3000 mile journey...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Feb 18 2010, 11:48 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 4,383
Posted By proserpine
Re: Lady Holders

Actually if I recall correctly, in Southern Boll Lady Holders were pretty common, according to both the DLG and SoP. It probably depends as much on whether the previous Lord had any male heirs as it...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Feb 17 2010, 11:44 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 3,195
Posted By proserpine
Re: Are all of Todds books in the same time frame?

Dragon Heart and Dragons blood do start at the same time, but they center around different characters, different events, and are (surprise!) quite different from each other in both quality and tone....
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 27 2009, 01:23 AM
Replies: 47
Views: 18,033
Posted By proserpine
Re: The Goldrider of Pern (fanart comic)

Yeah, but Penny Arcade's art is spectacular, especially when they do go into extended story lines, like Automata or CTS. And there's enough of Gabe's outside work on the web and in their books to...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 20 2009, 01:16 AM
Replies: 47
Views: 18,033
Posted By proserpine
Re: The Goldrider of Pern (fanart comic)

Story does generally trump art if it's a good enough story :D
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 19 2009, 02:46 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 12,373
Posted By proserpine
Re: What role would you play on Pern?

I'd probably be holdless if I didn't get into a craft. Weaver or tanner, maybe. I can't sing, so I wouldn't be harper. I'd be attracted to Thella-style holdlessness just for the romance and...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 19 2009, 01:46 AM
Replies: 47
Views: 18,033
Posted By proserpine
Re: The Goldrider of Pern (fanart comic)

Thanks for the link to Dicebox, I have been looking for that FOR EVER but couldn't remember the name.

I ran across this comic a couple years ago on a search for Pern fanart, and kinda wondered why...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern May 31 2009, 03:52 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 6,017
Posted By proserpine
Re: Which character are you most like?

I don't think I have an exact parallel anywhere on Pern. I'm short tempered, have body image and intimacy issues, and I'm sarcastic and will poke fun at just about everything, including bad breakups...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern May 23 2009, 10:52 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 47,614
Posted By proserpine
Re: Why all the Brekke hate?

I didn't say Pern was gender-equal, what I said was "at a comparatively gender equal time in Pernese history," i.e. gender roles at the beginning of the Second Pass are somewhat equal, especially in...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern May 23 2009, 09:53 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 5,456
Posted By proserpine
Re: Best And Worse And In Between!

Hmm. . .

Good: Moreta, Harper Hall trilogy, All the Weyrs of Pern, Nerilka's Story, Dragon's Eye/Red Star Rising

Between: Dragonflight, Dragondawn, Chronicles, Dragonquest, Renegades, the...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern May 23 2009, 09:03 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 7,237
Posted By proserpine
Re: Inside Ruatha Hold...

If the material the rafters were created out of have been commented about in the books at all we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. The only time the rafters even come up is in DF as far...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern May 18 2009, 03:29 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 7,237
Posted By proserpine
Re: Inside Ruatha Hold...

Ah, but Ruatha was built at a time when they could still have used plastic in their construction. Those rafters don't necessarily have to be wood: in fact I remember somewhere in DDrums they mention...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern May 13 2009, 01:24 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 47,614
Posted By proserpine
Re: Why all the Brekke hate?

What always got me about Zulaya and K'vin was that even though they worked together as pretty much equals throughout the rest of their relations, as you'd probably expect the Weyrleaders to do,...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern May 12 2009, 06:21 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 14,539
Posted By proserpine
Re: What Fire Lizard would you impress?

I'd want a bronze: they're almost as smart as golds, there's more of them and the chances of actually getting one as a lot higher. But like a lot of people, I'd prefer half a fair with a good color...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 25 2009, 09:54 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 12,181
Posted By proserpine
Re: Where Are Jaxom's Siblings?

TWD, page 430: "There was a dangerous glint in Jaxom's eyes and a sternness to his features which, for the first time since Robinton had known the lad, gave him the look of his father, Fax, a...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 23 2009, 05:28 AM
Replies: 50
Views: 20,699
Posted By proserpine
Re: Masterharper Of Pern Inconsistencies

So then it'd be equally valid to say that 50 years from now things'll return to limited freedom for women? Well, actually it is, it's the future, who knows, but the changes that occur still don't...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 23 2009, 01:59 AM
Replies: 50
Views: 20,699
Posted By proserpine
Re: Masterharper Of Pern Inconsistencies

The problem with MHoP is that it doesn't match anything of what we were told about the interval at all in other books, including the roles of women, Sebell's entire storyline, the level of threat Fax...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 23 2009, 12:09 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 12,181
Posted By proserpine
Re: Where Are Jaxom's Siblings?

I doubt Fax would have cared about them one way or another since they weren't sons. If he wanted to keep their mothers around (since he's got at least one pregnant chick hanging out with him at...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 21 2009, 08:15 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 9,764
Posted By proserpine
Re: books too complex for their own good?

I have to confess that my favorite aspects of writing are part of what makes Pern (and the collected works of Ursula K. Le Guin) so interesting to me: the invention of entire new worlds and...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 20 2009, 01:26 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 47,614
Posted By proserpine
Re: Why all the Brekke hate?

Yeah, that was weird. And she's got a fairly dominant personality in general, given that everyone in the Weyr respects her, and not just because of her queen. That's some weird sexual politics,...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 19 2009, 02:44 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 19,570
Posted By proserpine
Re: Flaws?

I meant the kind of character flaws that are deeply ingrained, the result of a life time of bad habits and such. The average teen certainly has PLENTY of flaws, but tends to grow out of most of...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 13 2009, 01:20 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 9,764
Posted By proserpine
books too complex for their own good?

Has anyone else thought that the longer the book Anne writes, the less coherent it becomes? Especially the later books, Skies, MHoP, Dolphins, DE/RSR and Renegades?

I've noticed that the books...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 12 2009, 09:19 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 5,793
Posted By proserpine
Re: F'lessan's sons

It doesn't say anywhere who or what the women were.
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 12 2009, 07:55 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 35,794
Posted By proserpine
Re: Unlikeable Main characters (was titled Favorite USUAL Character?)

No idea, but the abominators suffer the same problem all Anne's villains do: they're too simple. They're all just bad, bad people who are out to get the good guys, or the good guys' stuff, and that...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 11 2009, 02:02 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 8,276
Posted By proserpine
Re: Moreta's Ride: What if and why

It's not like they have much long term memory anyway, so I don't think so. And how would that manifest? They become surly and short tempered with their rider?
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 10 2009, 04:25 AM
Replies: 111
Views: 35,794
Posted By proserpine
Re: Unlikeable Main characters (was titled Favorite USUAL Character?)

I always regretted that Thella didn't get a better story. She starts out as a pretty good villain, but goes downhill pretty fast after Aramina is introduced, which is a good reason to hate Aramina,...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 9 2009, 03:30 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 5,793
Posted By proserpine
Re: F'lessan's sons

By that time more green riders would be female, though, since Mirrim set the precedent for it at the same Hatching as F'lessen's Impression. So any one of those prior relationships could have been...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 9 2009, 03:21 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 8,276
Posted By proserpine
Re: Moreta's Ride: What if and why

Well, and it doesn't help that before she even made that final jump she was thinking of between by reciting her mantra (black, blacker, blackest) right before Holth teleports. She was relying way...
Forum: Beyond Anne McCaffrey Feb 9 2009, 08:41 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 4,387
Posted By proserpine
Re: C.J. Cherryh

I have to second the recommendation of the Faded Sun trilogy, they are quite good. She really does a good job of creating an alien psyche in it. I also read Cyteen in high school and enjoyed it,...
Forum: Exhibit Hall Jan 31 2009, 01:47 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 3,956
Posted By proserpine
Re: As Yet Untitled Talentverse FFic

This is true, and almost as frustrating as her 'Anne-consistencies.'
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Jan 23 2009, 03:48 AM
Replies: 113
Views: 19,700
Posted By proserpine
Re: If you had to live the life of one of the characters....

I've always wanted to be a Mary Sue, so I'd be Lorana.

Just kidding! Actually, I'd want to be Iantine, or maybe a girl version of him if I have to stay female. Being able to pursue art full...
Forum: Exhibit Hall Jan 23 2009, 03:01 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 3,956
Posted By proserpine
Re: As Yet Untitled Talentverse FFic

I'm going to be brutally honest here because I like to think that's what people want. You have an interesting concept here, with the unregistered talent aspect of the story. However, there's not...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Jan 23 2009, 12:25 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 31,776
Posted By proserpine
Re: Oldtimer queens lack of rising in White Dragon

According to the Chronicles of Pern, Benden, Telgar and High Reaches were built at the same time, with Igen marked out for future development, and Ista already inhabited as a breeding Weyr. Given...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Dec 9 2008, 04:35 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 6,437
Posted By proserpine
Re: Todd near finishing new Pern book...

OH joy, more Loranna :crazy: I like Kindan, but I really don't ever need to read another book with her as the main character. One go around was enough.

I'm in the middle of reading Dragonheart,...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Dec 9 2008, 03:58 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 4,096
Posted By proserpine
Re: Petiron and Menolly

Considering that MHoP clashes with just about all of the previously established canon, we can probably take that version of Petiron with a grain of salt.

OTOH, given that Half Circle was both...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Nov 30 2008, 05:01 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 15,593
Posted By proserpine
Re: Questions about N'ton and Sebell?

Since dragons can understand pretty much anyone they want as long as they like the person, Naton's ability to communicate with Canth isn't that unusual.

Sebell's appearance in MHoP is another of...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 11 2008, 05:39 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 15,214
Posted By proserpine
Re: A White Sport's Coat and Reincarnation

I'd probably go brown or blue, because there's no leadership position expected and I could be alone if I wanted too, and they're pretty smart.
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