A Meeting of Minds - An Anne McCaffrey Discussion Forum  

Go Back   A Meeting of Minds - An Anne McCaffrey Discussion Forum > The Mezzanine > Exhibit Hall

Exhibit Hall For the exhibition of artistic creations by our members, from poetry and prose to drawings, photography, and digital art.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Feb 3 2010, 12:17 AM   #1
Lady Maelin
Master Artist


 
Lady Maelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang
Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !
Default Fandarel

Here is a drawing a did a few month ago... my minds idea of what Fandarel might have looked like...



Lady Maelin





Surprise Cheryl... just my small way of saying thank you for all your kindness
__________________
"To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!"

The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle
Lady Maelin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 12:54 AM   #2
Samsara
Dragon Healer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Perth, Australia
Gender: F
Fan of: PERN!!!
Now Reading: Restoree
Thumbs up Re: Fandarel

I love this picture Lady M! I always really like Fandarel, I thought he was a wonderful character. This is pretty much how i pictured him as well!
Samsara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 01:14 AM   #3
Cavatica
Senior Member
Selkie
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern, Talents
Now Reading: Just finished: House of Suns
Default Re: Fandarel

Beautiful! The angle is perfect -- gives you a little bit more of a sense that he's bearing down on you -- and I especially love his belt. Great color, and I <3 buckles. ;>

I wonder if you weren't a little influenced by Andre the Giant? I can definitely see some of him in this!
Cavatica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 02:00 AM   #4
jube
Dolphineer Journeywoman
 
jube's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Australia
Gender: F
Fan of: Dragons of Pern
Now Reading: Puzzles and my thesaurus!
Default Re: Fandarel

WOW - exactly as I pictured him in my head. The belt would be typical of a back support belt (can't think of the name of it though).
__________________
Dolphineer Journeywoman and part-time researcher....

Find me on ebay.....

Here'tis!
jube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 02:28 AM   #5
GinnyStar
Dolphineer
Craftmaster
 
GinnyStar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Wausau, WI USA, Central Standard Time
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern, other SF works
Now Reading: Dragonback Bargain
Default Re: Fandarel

I like it too, and the belt, gives me and idea, any more like this? I would love to see like say Master Jo (sp) from DE/RSR?
__________________
Lover s s, s and friends
Lover of and beads,
http://www.change.org/profiles/GinnyStar
Dragoncave GinnyStar2
Jellied Dragons
Lair of Dragons
http://dragcave.net/user/GinnyStar2
Thanks! Others: None at this time
WIP http://archiveofourown.org/works/252259
http://www.daisy.org/learning-difficulties
GinnyStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 02:48 AM   #6
r2005
Crafter
Student
 
r2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Maine
Gender: F
Fan of: Dragonriders of Pern
Now Reading: 1632 Series by Eric Flint
Default Re: Fandarel

Another wonderful piece, Maelin.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavatica View Post
I wonder if you weren't a little influenced by Andre the Giant? I can definitely see some of him in this!
I was trying to place what the drawing reminded me of, and now after seeing you write it down, I definitely agree.
__________________
There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination, living there you'll be free if you truly wish to be
r2005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 02:57 AM   #7
Hans
Master Archivist
 
Hans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Netherlands
Gender: M
Fan of: Pern!
Default Re: Fandarel

What a fantastic picture!
__________________
Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist

Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources!
The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.
Hans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 04:49 AM   #8
P'ter
Crafter

Craftmaster
 
P'ter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wolverhampton
Gender: M
Fan of: Favorite?
Now Reading: avidly
Default Re: Fandarel

I love the way his belt is having to work very hard!

In MY minds eye I had him with hairy arms though.
__________________
"Truth is stranger than fiction: fiction has to make sense." Leo Rosten.

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
C. S. Lewis

"I find television very educational. Whenever somebody switches it on I go in the other room and read a book." (attributed to Groucho Marx)

The Pedants are revolting! (against bad grammar)
P'ter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 06:57 AM   #9
Cheryl
Master Archivist
 
Cheryl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland, USA
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern!
Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)
Default Re: Fandarel

Wow, I am surprised by your sneaking a new portrait in!

And my is he imposing. I'm guessing most apprentices and journeymen are more than a little intimidated by him!

Well done once again!
__________________
Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad:
Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series
The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works
McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.
Cheryl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 08:16 AM   #10
AnnMarie
Momma Wolf
Weyrwoman
 
AnnMarie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: On the Edge
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern and Talent
Now Reading: The Name of the Rose
Default Re: Fandarel

Ohhhhh an new Pern portrait by our own LandyM! LOVE IT!

And P'ter, hairy arms would be a liability around a forge...hair catches fire soooo easily!
AnnMarie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 08:46 PM   #11
Allen
Senior Member
 
Allen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Last house on the left, across from the cemetery
Gender: M
Fan of: The Pern Series
Now Reading: Robin Hobb's Shaman's Crossing
Default Re: Fandarel

My first thought was of Andre as well. I always thought of him as older, too. After all, he's the MasterSmith.
__________________
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Allen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 09:35 PM   #12
Lady Maelin
Master Artist


 
Lady Maelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang
Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !
Default Re: Fandarel

Thank you all for your very kind words...its such a joy doing these drawing for all of you...Glad to hear that everyone so far, is enjoying Fandarel...you really wouldn't want to upset him, not as big as he is he really has taken up a lot of room in my studio glad he's here now, so I can have some elbow room again... !!



Sam...Fandarel has always been one of my favorites too...glad you like him.

Cav you have it right on his big thumbs...I was watching another showing of *The Princess Bride*and saw Andre the Giant and the proverbial idea light went off over my head....as I realized that he would have made an excellent Fandarel. I went looking for photos of him and saw this pose and immediately fell in love with it. As I was drawing the face, it started to change as I imposed some of the things Anne mentions about Fandarel in the stories on to the drawing...at one point I got up from my easel to get a cup of tea and when I came back this face was staring back at me not Andre's but this one...and I knew then, for me it WAS Fandarel.

Jube...glad your enjoying him...the belt just seemed appropriate for him...especially since Anne does mention him wearing a rather large belt that he is constantly folding in half by gripping it with his huge hands and squezing...OUCH!!

Ginny...glad you like him...and yes there is more...here on Mom and over on Hans Perm Museum and Archives site.

*R*...thanks for your lovely compliment

Hans...thank you dear friend......

Peter......yes well if you were his size you need something that would allow you to see your toes too...and you must be kidding
*HAIRY ARMS*...they wouldn't be for long working so near the flames of a forge...singe


Cheryl...in all honesty dear friend, he has been hanging around my studio for a little while now, but he's been wanting to go on an outing, so what better place than here on MoM, as a surprise for you and the rest of the MoMers. I am so glad you like him... O'MoM to be[again]


AnnMarie...thought it was time I whipped out my pencils and I drew up another old fave...for the MoMers here to enjoy. I am so happy you liked him so much.

Draco...Yes!!! BUT did you like him? Or were you suggesting I should have made him look a bit older?
__________________
"To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!"

The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle
Lady Maelin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 09:51 PM   #13
Cavatica
Senior Member
Selkie
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern, Talents
Now Reading: Just finished: House of Suns
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Maelin View Post
Cav you have it right on his big thumbs...I was watching another showing of *The Princess Bride*and saw Andre the Giant and the proverbial idea light went off over my head....as I realized that he would have made an excellent Fandarel. I went looking for photos of him and saw this pose and immediately fell in love with it. As I was drawing the face, it started to change as I imposed some of the things Anne mentions about Fandarel in the stories on to the drawing...at one point I got up from my easel to get a cup of tea and when I came back this face was staring back at me not Andre's but this one...and I knew then, for me it WAS Fandarel.
Sounds reasonable to me! Giving myself a pat on the back for guessing the inspiration, though. ;>
Cavatica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3 2010, 09:56 PM   #14
Lady Maelin
Master Artist


 
Lady Maelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang
Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !
Default Re: Fandarel

Pat, pat, pat away girl...you have a good set of eyes on you as well a great imagination.
__________________
"To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!"

The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle
Lady Maelin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 12:14 AM   #15
Allen
Senior Member
 
Allen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Last house on the left, across from the cemetery
Gender: M
Fan of: The Pern Series
Now Reading: Robin Hobb's Shaman's Crossing
Default Re: Fandarel

I like him as drawn, but I do think he should be older, from the way he's described in the first books. Not old enough to be F'lar's father, but maybe his father's younger brother, age-wise. Maybe 10 or so years older than F'lar.

Andre Roussimoff was born just over a year before me.
__________________
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Allen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 12:40 AM   #16
ElectricDragon
Weyrlingmaster
 
ElectricDragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Between
Gender: M
Fan of: Pern, obviously.
Now Reading: That's classified.
Default Re: Fandarel

I think the shoulders should be more massive and prominent, and the arms longer, with their development more massive. You've given him a bulky chest, so we get the impression of a big guy, but Fandarel is also a strong man. Even if he's carrying some extra around the middle, this guy should have shoulders that block out any light from a room behind him when he steps into a doorway. (I flew with a guy once who had just this kind of build.) His head should look--just a little bit--like it's too small, because of the massive upper-body development. He would probably tend to stoop just a little bit because he has to duck lintels.

Every smith I've ever known has hard, defined muscles in his arms, and the forearms often lack any hair (singed off) and what is there tended to be harshly curled if it's not just burned stubble. Frequently there are spot burn scars on the hands and forearms as well.

The big part of what I remember about the descriptions of Fandarel is that he is a mountain of a man, massive, intimidating and that he does not at all look the part of someone who would be a mechanical genius, much less capable of the most delicate manipulation of tiny parts. He's a massive contradiction between his brutal, thuggish appearance and his formidable intellect and delicate touch. I've always thought Robin Wood's Fandarel was a good likeness and I'm not a real fan of her work.

Unfortunately, Andre might not be the best model. Andre suffered from acromegaly and nothing in the description of Fandarel, his personality, his habits, etc... points to any indication of his suffering something similar. Nor do I recall his description indicating anything like the disfigurement suffered from this condition by Andre or Richard "Jaws" Kiel or Carel "Lurch" Struycken.

I love the inclusion of the flame-thrower or HNO3 tank in the background. A telegraph wire tacked to the wall up near the ceiling would have been another clever inclusion. Keep up the good work.
ElectricDragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 07:06 AM   #17
Priscilla
Super Stitcher
Craftmaster
 
Priscilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Gender: F
Fan of: No One Noticed The Cat
Default Re: Fandarel

Andre the Giant was my first thought as well, before I read any of the other posts. The Princess Bride is one of my all time favorite movies! Another gorgeous portrait, Maelin!
__________________
What we have once enjoyed we can never lose.
All that we love deeply becomes a part of us.
Helen Keller
Priscilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 07:24 AM   #18
Kat
Journeywoman archivist
 
Kat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: South Carolina,USA
Gender: F
Fan of: DRoP
Now Reading: Sky Dragons
Default Re: Fandarel

Wonderful work as always Maelin. I too saw shades of Andre.
Kat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 01:44 PM   #19
Cavatica
Senior Member
Selkie
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern, Talents
Now Reading: Just finished: House of Suns
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectricDragon View Post
I think the shoulders should be more massive and prominent, and the arms longer, with their development more massive. You've given him a bulky chest, so we get the impression of a big guy, but Fandarel is also a strong man. Even if he's carrying some extra around the middle, this guy should have shoulders that block out any light from a room behind him when he steps into a doorway. (I flew with a guy once who had just this kind of build.) His head should look--just a little bit--like it's too small, because of the massive upper-body development. He would probably tend to stoop just a little bit because he has to duck lintels.

Blah blah nitpick, blah blah.
You g'wan ahead and do a better job, then. I'm all for constructive criticism, but this is a little ridiculous.
Cavatica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 03:12 PM   #20
Greenrider Tresa
The Contrary
Planetary Brain
 
Greenrider Tresa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Northern Indiana
Gender: F
Fan of: The Ship Who Searched
Now Reading: The Calhoun Collection, Nora Roberts
Default Re: Fandarel

Excellent work as always, Maelin! And we can see who Edith learned from. hehe
__________________
Thinking, understanding, reasoning, willing, call not these
Soul! They are its actions, but they are not its essence.

Akhenaton? (c. B.C. 1375)
Egyptian King and Monotheist


Greenrider Tresa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 03:47 PM   #21
Golden Talisath
Dragonrider storyteller
Junior Weyrwoman
 
Golden Talisath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Serbia
Gender: F
Fan of: F'lar and Lessa, DF
Now Reading: My university books
Default Re: Fandarel

Great work, Maelin!
I know I'm jumping out of topic here, but what happened to that portrait of F'lar we were promised?
__________________
"Manuscripts don't burn", Woland, ''The Master and Margarita''

From the Weyr and from the Bowl
Bronze and Brown and Blue and Green,
Rise the dragonmen of Pern,
Aloft, on wing, seen, then unseen.
Dragonman avoid excess
Greed will bring the Weyr distress;
To the ancient Laws adhere,
Prospers thus the Dragon-weyr.
Golden Talisath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 03:56 PM   #22
Anneli
Weyrwoman
 
Anneli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Shropshire
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern!
Now Reading: Dragonflight
Default Re: Fandarel

Great picture

One distraction for me - I confess the first thing I thought when I saw the flame thrower apparently going into one side of his head and out the other was "so what under the double moons is Frankenstein doing on Pern?"

*ducks and runs:
Anneli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 03:57 PM   #23
Cavatica
Senior Member
Selkie
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern, Talents
Now Reading: Just finished: House of Suns
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Talisath View Post
Great work, Maelin!
I know I'm jumping out of topic here, but what happened to that portrait of F'lar we were promised?
You mean this one?
Cavatica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 04:45 PM   #24
Priscilla
Super Stitcher
Craftmaster
 
Priscilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Gender: F
Fan of: No One Noticed The Cat
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anneli View Post
Great picture

One distraction for me - I confess the first thing I thought when I saw the flame thrower apparently going into one side of his head and out the other was "so what under the double moons is Frankenstein doing on Pern?"

*ducks and runs:
Oh, but the "bolts" would have to be through his neck to be Frankenstein, wouldn't they?
__________________
What we have once enjoyed we can never lose.
All that we love deeply becomes a part of us.
Helen Keller
Priscilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 07:00 PM   #25
R'na
Dragonrider
 
R'na's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Prescott Az USA
Gender: M
Fan of: dragonriders of pern
Now Reading: Random Fanfiction
Gold Re: Fandarel

WOW!!!!!!!!! I shared that with my sis. We both love it. Great work as always Lady Maelin
__________________
Rider of bronze Zoreth
R'na is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 07:23 PM   #26
Cavatica
Senior Member
Selkie
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern, Talents
Now Reading: Just finished: House of Suns
Default Re: Fandarel

Frankenstein's MONSTER, people. Victor Frankenstein created the friggin' MONSTER.

*sigh*

Here's the book. Go read it. It was written by a woman, you'll love it.
Cavatica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 10:45 PM   #27
Lady Maelin
Master Artist


 
Lady Maelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang
Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !
Default Re: Fandarel

Draco...I am glad that you did like him...I was torn some, between making him a bit older too...but he never seemed all that much older than F'lar and Lessa to me...it was always Robinton that was the older member of the group in my mind. I did give him a bit of grey hair for those who needed him a bit older...but only a touch
__________________
"To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!"

The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle
Lady Maelin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 10:57 PM   #28
Lady Maelin
Master Artist


 
Lady Maelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang
Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !
Default Re: Fandarel

E.D....I'm really not to sure I would have room on my paper to draw the Fandarel you discribed...he would be very large indeed

You have some very difinite ideas about what Fandarel should look like[like we all do]...but I think you are certainly the best one, that could do a drawing that would suit your very personal vision.

Quote:
Electric Dragon...Keep up the good work
I intend to try
__________________
"To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!"

The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle
Lady Maelin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 11:12 PM   #29
Lady Maelin
Master Artist


 
Lady Maelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang
Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !
Default Re: Fandarel

Cilla...thank you so much for your lovely compliment dear friend...I am thrilled that you are enjoying this one.

Kat...since I am also a real fan of Andre the Giant [thanks to Princess Bride]...I was very happy to be able to use him as my model for Fandarel. Thank you for your kind words
__________________
"To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!"

The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle
Lady Maelin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 11:15 PM   #30
Lady Maelin
Master Artist


 
Lady Maelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang
Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Cavatica...You g'wan ahead and do a better job, then. I'm all for constructive criticism, but this is a little ridiculous.
Cav...Girl, you do have such a lovely way with words...
__________________
"To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!"

The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle
Lady Maelin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 11:42 PM   #31
ElectricDragon
Weyrlingmaster
 
ElectricDragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Between
Gender: M
Fan of: Pern, obviously.
Now Reading: That's classified.
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavatica View Post
You g'wan ahead and do a better job, then. I'm all for constructive criticism, but this is a little ridiculous.
What a lovely thank you for my compliment on your art work, you doing your best to stir up trouble as a third party.

In the future, kindly let Maelin speak for herself. She's quite capable (see above) and she and I have freely shared our opinions in the past. And while she and I might not share a vision, she knows I appreciate her work.

I certainly took notice that you selectively edited out the compliments I paid her to insert your blahs.

Last edited by ElectricDragon; Feb 5 2010 at 12:01 AM. Reason: edit
ElectricDragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 11:46 PM   #32
Lady Maelin
Master Artist


 
Lady Maelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang
Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !
Default Re: Fandarel

Greenrider Tresa..thank you so much for your lovely compliment...

Golden Talisath...glad to hear that you like it so much...as for F'lar, keep your eyes on MoM...you just never know who's going to show up...

I think the portrait of F'lar, that Cav is talking about was only a quick sketch...in lead pencil...not a real portrait...that is yet to be seen


Anneli...my very dear friend, PLEASE...a Pern Frankenstein??? !!! Oh Lord...I never realize that YES indeed, the flame thrower does go right through his head. Weeeeeeell, if anyone could figure out what could be done with it...it certainly would be him...

Cilla...well just think of it this way...on Pern it wouldn't be bolts...it would have to be parts of a flame thrower...Fandarel really seemed to hate having to fix all of them...its not out of the realm of possibilities that he would finally let one of them go to his head....


R'na...it just makes me feel wonderful that you enjoyed it so much that you wanted to share it with someone else...thanks for the fantastic compliment you made my day...
__________________
"To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!"

The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle
Lady Maelin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 4 2010, 11:59 PM   #33
ElectricDragon
Weyrlingmaster
 
ElectricDragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Between
Gender: M
Fan of: Pern, obviously.
Now Reading: That's classified.
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Maelin View Post
E.D....I'm really not to sure I would have room on my paper to draw the Fandarel you discribed...he would be very large indeed

You have some very difinite ideas about what Fandarel should look like[like we all do]...but I think you are certainly the best one, that could do a drawing that would suit your very personal vision.



I intend to try
The guy I flew with was, indeed, huge. Spent way too much time in the gym. Great guy, however, with a sweetheart of a wife and a darling daughter who thankfully looks entirely like her mother! Of course the poor girl will never have a date with her father answering the door when the boy shows up...

I'd certainly do drawings of characters, but drawing live figures is not a talent I possess, as I've stated before. I'm a decent draftsman, but not an artist.

My comments are offered constructively and my benediction to continue the good work is certainly not sarcastic. I'd like to think we can trade competing visions openly as we have in the past with no hard feelings or misconceptions courtesy of intrusive third-parties.

And, BTW, this work is a fine tribute to Andre the Giant who was at his best in the Princess Bride (probably the most humorously quotable film ever). Who knew he had such comedic timing? And so enjoyable that he did!

P.S. Looking again at the dimensions of your image (HxW) I can appreciate the space limitations...good point.

Last edited by ElectricDragon; Feb 5 2010 at 12:04 AM. Reason: PS
ElectricDragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 5 2010, 12:17 AM   #34
Cavatica
Senior Member
Selkie
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Gender: F
Fan of: Pern, Talents
Now Reading: Just finished: House of Suns
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectricDragon View Post
What a lovely thank you for my compliment on your art work, you doing your best to stir up trouble as a third party.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize being nice to one person made up for being dickish to someone else. Do your compliments ALWAYS come with conditions?

Quote:
In the future, kindly let Maelin speak for herself.
I did. She said, "If you can do better, let's see it." I mean, she said it NICELY, but that's what she said.

She also seemed to think MY remark was pretty funny, so there you go.

Quote:
I certainly took notice that you selectively edited out the compliments I paid her to insert your blahs.
Well, you know. Since 80% of your remarks were totally arbitrary nitpicks, with the compliments thrown in there as kind of an afterthought to soften the blow, I just thought I'd address the substance rather than the form. It's just how I roll.

I mean, really. "You did everything wrong... but seriously, I like it"? That's it? And here I was hoping you'd appreciate the skill it took to see through your ruse. :/
Cavatica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 5 2010, 12:44 AM   #35
ElectricDragon
Weyrlingmaster
 
ElectricDragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Between
Gender: M
Fan of: Pern, obviously.
Now Reading: That's classified.
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavatica View Post
I'm sorry, I didn't realize being nice to one person made up for being dickish to someone else. Do your compliments ALWAYS come with conditions?


I did. She said, "If you can do better, let's see it." I mean, she said it NICELY, but that's what she said.

She also seemed to think MY remark was pretty funny, so there you go.


Well, you know. Since 80% of your remarks were totally arbitrary nitpicks, with the compliments thrown in there as kind of an afterthought to soften the blow, I just thought I'd address the substance rather than the form. It's just how I roll.

I mean, really. "You did everything wrong... but seriously, I like it"? That's it? And here I was hoping you'd appreciate the skill it took to see through your ruse. :/
Since when is spraying lighter fluid someplace you think you see smoke a bright idea?

I've paid Maelin many a compliment in the past and offered many a critique and never got the impression she couldn't handle either. If her memory is so short that she can't remember compliments given, or her skin so thin she can't handle a critique, that's for her and I to resolve. From what I've seen her memory's fine and her skin's plenty tough. Regardless, it's none of your business.

Last edited by ElectricDragon; Feb 5 2010 at 01:00 AM. Reason: edit
ElectricDragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 5 2010, 12:58 AM   #36
jube
Dolphineer Journeywoman
 
jube's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Australia
Gender: F
Fan of: Dragons of Pern
Now Reading: Puzzles and my thesaurus!
Default Re: Fandarel

Okay ..... the boxing ring is over that-away if you two want to use it

BTW I always thought of Fax as Pern's Frankenstein-in-the-making. He's the only monster there, that I can think of.
__________________
Dolphineer Journeywoman and part-time researcher....

Find me on ebay.....

Here'tis!
jube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 5 2010, 01:05 AM   #37
ElectricDragon
Weyrlingmaster
 
ElectricDragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Between
Gender: M
Fan of: Pern, obviously.
Now Reading: That's classified.
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Originally Posted by jube View Post
Okay ..... the boxing ring is over that-away if you two want to use it

BTW I always thought of Fax as Pern's Frankenstein-in-the-making. He's the only monster there, that I can think of.
Maybe Toric...he's big enough, but don't tell Anareth. She thinks he's misunderstood.
ElectricDragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 5 2010, 01:08 AM   #38
jube
Dolphineer Journeywoman
 
jube's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Australia
Gender: F
Fan of: Dragons of Pern
Now Reading: Puzzles and my thesaurus!
Default Re: Fandarel

Did think of Toric but he's not as nasty as Fax from what I can remember of him.
__________________
Dolphineer Journeywoman and part-time researcher....

Find me on ebay.....

Here'tis!
jube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 5 2010, 01:15 AM   #39
ElectricDragon
Weyrlingmaster
 
ElectricDragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Between
Gender: M
Fan of: Pern, obviously.
Now Reading: That's classified.
Default Re: Fandarel

Quote:
Originally Posted by jube View Post
Did think of Toric but he's not as nasty as Fax from what I can remember of him.
Smarter than Fax, at least, to keep his scheming quiet for the most part; no invading, plundering and murdering, but plenty of infiltrating, manipulating and subverting. Still wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him upwind in a hurricane...

Last edited by ElectricDragon; Feb 5 2010 at 01:51 AM. Reason: typo
ElectricDragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 5 2010, 01:16 AM   #40
jube
Dolphineer Journeywoman
 
jube's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Australia
Gender: F
Fan of: Dragons of Pern
Now Reading: Puzzles and my thesaurus!
Default Re: Fandarel

There's other ways of plotting and scheming then just one I will agree with you on that point.
__________________
Dolphineer Journeywoman and part-time researcher....

Find me on ebay.....

Here'tis!
jube is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

A Meeting of Minds forum owned by Cheryl B. Miller.
All references to worlds and characters based on Anne McCaffrey’s fiction are copyright © Anne McCaffrey 1967-2008, all rights reserved, and used by permission of the author.