Just when you think you got them all... - A Meeting of Minds

***Hans*** · Jun 10 2008, 05:19 PM

As most of you know I collect Anne Mccaffrey books... alright and some other stuff too. But mainly Pern! But Pern in every language and cover edition

And just when you think you (almost) have them all some smart publisher, who reprinted and repblished the Harper Hall trilogy with new covers by Greg Call only a few years ago (under their Aladdin imprint) has pulled the same trick! We're talking about Simon & Schuster of New York who has brought to the world yet another new set of three Harper Hall volumes with... yes! New Covers. This time under the Simon Pulse imprint for teens. The new books are trade paperbacks (as was the Aladdin set; although they're only an inch bigger than the mass market paperbacks) and the new covers are by Sammy Juen Jr. They were published only a few days ago.

I guess there will be some discussion here about these new covers

Dragonsong

Simon Pulse, June 2008
Trade Paperback (Reissue), 224 pages
ISBN-10: 1-4169-6488-6
ISBN-13: 978-1-4169-6488-9
Ages: 12 and up
Grades: 7 and up

Dragonsinger

Simon Pulse, June 2008
Trade Paperback (Reissue), 320 pages
ISBN-10: 1-4169-6490-8
ISBN-13: 978-1-4169-6490-2
Ages: 12 and up
Grades: 7 and up

and
Dragondrums

Simon Pulse, June 2008
Trade Paperback (Reissue), 256 pages
ISBN-10: 1-4169-6491-6
ISBN-13: 978-1-4169-6491-9
Ages: 12 and up
Grades: 7 and up

and a bigger pic of the back of Dragondrums, revealing some more details

Sigh... now I have yet another set to buy... but done gladly while there's still "only" $8.99 a piece

**Cheryl** · Jun 10 2008, 05:36 PM

Interesting look to them, I can tell they are meant to appeal to teens! It'd be interesting to hear if they sell better or worse than the last cover set.

A note of import, the last set of covers from Aladdin were available both as mmp and trades.

jube · Jun 11 2008, 02:02 AM

Actually I quite like these covers for some reason..At least it's showing that it belongs to Pern.

P'ter · Jun 11 2008, 08:47 AM

Except that they're only 4 limbed!

Though I like the simplicity.

Allana · Jun 11 2008, 09:13 AM

I really really like those covers. I rarely buy double copies of a book, in fact I think I've only done it once, but I might have to reconsider with these! I can't even explain why I like them so much, I guess the teen marketing is working.

sjslack · Jun 11 2008, 10:00 AM

Those covers are rather nice. As Cheryl says, meant to appeal to teens. I've noticed this sort of artwork on a few other newer books on my infrequent visits to Waterstones...and at least they have dragons on the front. -Chuckles- The artwork itself isn't really a patch on Whelan (-Much luff for that man-), or Edwards, but if they're going to appeal to more people like that...I say good call.

mawra · Jun 11 2008, 04:51 PM

I like these covers much better than the last ones.

Lady Maelin · Jun 12 2008, 03:57 PM

Well I must be the odd one out here...I don't care for those covers at all. The simplistic drawings just don't appeal to me. I remember the drawing on my first Dragonflight paperback, that caught my eye...and got me interested enough to buy it. That buy started me on my long journey of reading Anne's many books. This cover wouldn't have caught my eye at all.

***Hans*** · Jun 12 2008, 04:44 PM

You're not alone, Maelin, I agree with you. They're colourful and I like the backgrounds more than the lizards

Lady Maelin · Jun 14 2008, 11:36 PM

Hans...I do agree with you that the backgrounds are colorful and interesting looking...but IMO the dragons look like they came out of a childrens cartoon.

Nefermiw · Jun 15 2008, 05:19 AM

The covers are certainly catchy for young people interested in fantasy, but I find them slightly misleading 'cause I would expect some sort of magic in the books when seeing the electric flashy "lights" on the cover.

And yes, the dragons do look weird with only two small legs and wings for arms.

But nontheless (

maybe that's not spelled right), I do like them better than for example the Dutch cover for the White Dragon (which I'm currentlyreading).

Becky · Jun 15 2008, 12:10 PM

I've been reading the posts on this thread and keep looking at the cover art. And I too must say that they don't do much for me. I'd not take a second look at the books. Not like Whelan's art for The White Dragon. That's what pulled me to the book and got me reading Anne! But if they get more readers then I'm all for them!

Greenrider Tresa · Jun 15 2008, 04:30 PM

Colorful covers, and I'm going to assume the artist only went for cartoonish to appeal to kids. Really the blue fire-lizard looks almost more decorative than something you expect to fly.

Lady Maelin · Jun 16 2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky

I've been reading the posts on this thread and keep looking at the cover art. And I too must say that they don't do much for me. I'd not take a second look at the books. Not like Whelan's art for The White Dragon. That's what pulled me to the book and got me reading Anne! But if they get more readers then I'm all for them!

Now I will agree with this too...anything that gets more people/kids to read is only a good thing...especially for Pern and the rest of AMC's stories.

GinnyStar · Jun 28 2008, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenrider Tresa

Colorful covers, and I'm going to assume the artist only went for cartoonish to appeal to kids. Really the blue fire-lizard looks almost more decorative than something you expect to fly.

How true, They turn me off

I would flameing They hurt my eyes, can see very clear and would give me a problems, I read the Harper Hall Book first. With the oringal covers Also the Dragons where missing or not show their arms.

Harper Hall Three info is ok, to me.

~(_'> · Jun 28 2008, 12:52 PM

*shrug* They're bright, shiney, eyecatching. I like them. They may not be Pernese, but then, neither are most of the other covers. Many of the dragons on the other covers are down right ugly. In anycase, one should bright enough to look INSIDE the book to the story.

**Cheryl** · Jun 28 2008, 01:23 PM

Visiting a bookstore today, I found that the older Alladin covers are shelved in the adult SF section, while these new ones were in the youth SF section.

***Hans*** · Jun 28 2008, 02:36 PM

Silly that because according to Simon & schuster the previous edition was aimed at young adult, too...

**Cheryl** · Jun 28 2008, 04:13 PM

The individual stores may decide on their own where to shelve the books... *shrug*

Brenda · Jun 29 2008, 12:11 AM

I don't like the artwork on these very much, but I must say that's one of the more faithful descriptions of the story!

Jun 10 2008, 05:19 PM	#1
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Just when you think you got them all... As most of you know I collect Anne Mccaffrey books... alright and some other stuff too. But mainly Pern! But Pern in every language and cover edition And just when you think you (almost) have them all some smart publisher, who reprinted and repblished the Harper Hall trilogy with new covers by Greg Call only a few years ago (under their Aladdin imprint) has pulled the same trick! We're talking about Simon & Schuster of New York who has brought to the world yet another new set of three Harper Hall volumes with... yes! New Covers. This time under the Simon Pulse imprint for teens. The new books are trade paperbacks (as was the Aladdin set; although they're only an inch bigger than the mass market paperbacks) and the new covers are by Sammy Juen Jr. They were published only a few days ago. I guess there will be some discussion here about these new covers Dragonsong Simon Pulse, June 2008 Trade Paperback (Reissue), 224 pages ISBN-10: 1-4169-6488-6 ISBN-13: 978-1-4169-6488-9 Ages: 12 and up Grades: 7 and up Dragonsinger Simon Pulse, June 2008 Trade Paperback (Reissue), 320 pages ISBN-10: 1-4169-6490-8 ISBN-13: 978-1-4169-6490-2 Ages: 12 and up Grades: 7 and up and Dragondrums Simon Pulse, June 2008 Trade Paperback (Reissue), 256 pages ISBN-10: 1-4169-6491-6 ISBN-13: 978-1-4169-6491-9 Ages: 12 and up Grades: 7 and up and a bigger pic of the back of Dragondrums, revealing some more details Sigh... now I have yet another set to buy... but done gladly while there's still "only" $8.99 a piece __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Jun 10 2008, 05:36 PM	#2
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: Just when you think you got them all... Interesting look to them, I can tell they are meant to appeal to teens! It'd be interesting to hear if they sell better or worse than the last cover set. A note of import, the last set of covers from Aladdin were available both as mmp and trades. __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Jun 11 2008, 02:02 AM	#3
jube Dolphineer Journeywoman Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Gender: F Fan of: Dragons of Pern Now Reading: Puzzles and my thesaurus!	Re: Just when you think you got them all... Actually I quite like these covers for some reason..At least it's showing that it belongs to Pern. __________________ Dolphineer Journeywoman and part-time researcher.... Find me on ebay..... Here'tis!

Jun 11 2008, 08:47 AM	#4
P'ter Crafter Craftmaster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Gender: M Fan of: Favorite? Now Reading: avidly	Re: Just when you think you got them all... Except that they're only 4 limbed! Though I like the simplicity. __________________ "Truth is stranger than fiction: fiction has to make sense." Leo Rosten. "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C. S. Lewis "I find television very educational. Whenever somebody switches it on I go in the other room and read a book." (attributed to Groucho Marx) The Pedants are revolting! (against bad grammar)

Jun 11 2008, 09:13 AM	#5
Allana Dragonrider Candidate Join Date: Nov 2006 Gender: F Fan of: Crystal, Pern, Dino P.	Re: Just when you think you got them all... I really really like those covers. I rarely buy double copies of a book, in fact I think I've only done it once, but I might have to reconsider with these! I can't even explain why I like them so much, I guess the teen marketing is working.

Jun 11 2008, 10:00 AM	#6
sjslack Inactive Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Derby, England Gender: F Fan of: Pern Now Reading: as usual	Re: Just when you think you got them all... Those covers are rather nice. As Cheryl says, meant to appeal to teens. I've noticed this sort of artwork on a few other newer books on my infrequent visits to Waterstones...and at least they have dragons on the front. -Chuckles- The artwork itself isn't really a patch on Whelan (-Much luff for that man-), or Edwards, but if they're going to appeal to more people like that...I say good call.

Jun 11 2008, 04:51 PM	#7
mawra Dolphin Friend Craftmaster Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CONCORD VA Gender: F Fan of: PERN Now Reading: Dolphins of Pern and Queens ow	Re: Just when you think you got them all... I like these covers much better than the last ones. __________________ MEDDLE NOT IN THE AFAIRS OF DRAGONS, FOR YOU ARE CRUNCHY & GOOD WITH CHOCOLATE SO MANY BOOKS SO LITTLE TIME DRIVING SMART KEEPS YOU ALIVE

Jun 12 2008, 03:57 PM	#8
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Just when you think you got them all... Well I must be the odd one out here...I don't care for those covers at all. The simplistic drawings just don't appeal to me. I remember the drawing on my first Dragonflight paperback, that caught my eye...and got me interested enough to buy it. That buy started me on my long journey of reading Anne's many books. This cover wouldn't have caught my eye at all. __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Jun 12 2008, 04:44 PM	#9
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: Just when you think you got them all... You're not alone, Maelin, I agree with you. They're colourful and I like the backgrounds more than the lizards __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Jun 14 2008, 11:36 PM	#10
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Just when you think you got them all... Hans...I do agree with you that the backgrounds are colorful and interesting looking...but IMO the dragons look like they came out of a childrens cartoon. __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Jun 15 2008, 05:19 AM	#11
Nefermiw Ballybran Resident Caterer's Assistant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lund, Sweden Gender: F Fan of: The Crystal Singer series Now Reading: anything on my eReader	Re: Just when you think you got them all... The covers are certainly catchy for young people interested in fantasy, but I find them slightly misleading 'cause I would expect some sort of magic in the books when seeing the electric flashy "lights" on the cover. And yes, the dragons do look weird with only two small legs and wings for arms. But nontheless ( maybe that's not spelled right), I do like them better than for example the Dutch cover for the White Dragon (which I'm currentlyreading).

Jun 15 2008, 12:10 PM	#12
Becky Coelura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington Gender: F Fan of: Fav character - Lunzie Now Reading: Love reading Lanen's books too	Re: Just when you think you got them all... I've been reading the posts on this thread and keep looking at the cover art. And I too must say that they don't do much for me. I'd not take a second look at the books. Not like Whelan's art for The White Dragon. That's what pulled me to the book and got me reading Anne! But if they get more readers then I'm all for them! __________________ Becky aka Coelura1

Jun 15 2008, 04:30 PM	#13
Greenrider Tresa The Contrary Planetary Brain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Gender: F Fan of: The Ship Who Searched Now Reading: The Calhoun Collection, Nora Roberts	Re: Just when you think you got them all... Colorful covers, and I'm going to assume the artist only went for cartoonish to appeal to kids. Really the blue fire-lizard looks almost more decorative than something you expect to fly. __________________ Thinking, understanding, reasoning, willing, call not these Soul! They are its actions, but they are not its essence. Akhenaton? (c. B.C. 1375) Egyptian King and Monotheist

Jun 28 2008, 12:52 PM	#16
~(_'> Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005	Re: Just when you think you got them all... shrug They're bright, shiney, eyecatching. I like them. They may not be Pernese, but then, neither are most of the other covers. Many of the dragons on the other covers are down right ugly. In anycase, one should bright enough to look INSIDE the book to the story.

Jun 28 2008, 01:23 PM	#17
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: Just when you think you got them all... Visiting a bookstore today, I found that the older Alladin covers are shelved in the adult SF section, while these new ones were in the youth SF section. __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Jun 28 2008, 02:36 PM	#18
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: Just when you think you got them all... Silly that because according to Simon & schuster the previous edition was aimed at young adult, too... __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Jun 28 2008, 04:13 PM	#19
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: Just when you think you got them all... The individual stores may decide on their own where to shelve the books... shrug __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Jun 29 2008, 12:11 AM	#20
Brenda Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. Louis Gender: F	Re: Just when you think you got them all... I don't like the artwork on these very much, but I must say that's one of the more faithful descriptions of the story! __________________ . Check out my Pern fiction! Mirrim's Vigil News from the Weyr Missing Link Dragonsong: An Alternate Tune Ghost in the Tunnels Changes at Riverbend Hold Pern Songs