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Old Dec 11 2004, 04:47 PM   #1
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One of my favourite poets is Robbie Burns, partly from his earthiness, and his delight in recording folk verse, partly from his sheer brilliance as a poet, and warmth as a human being.

These qualities make me like him as a poet, but they also lead me to wonder what other MoMers like in a poet. Who else is among your favourite poets, and why?
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Robbie Burns is probably my favorite. He was a man who believed in really living his life, and had an eye for the ladies, which is often reflected in his poems. He was also very proud of his Sctos heritage (Scots Wa Ham being a perfect example). I had a pair of first editions, but I donated them to a library, because I was afraid they's fall apart from over-loving them.


I also like Walt Whitman and Emily Post, probably because their poetry was about life, and love, history and dreams, desires and compromise.


Must admit, most modern day poets just don't inspire the same loyalty in me.
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Old Dec 11 2004, 08:08 PM   #3
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I do quite like William Blake... but mainly because i studeied him for A-level, and i haven't read many contemporary poetry.
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Old Dec 12 2004, 01:59 AM   #4
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There are so many poets I love, even if I've read only a few pieces by them.

Fondest, even beyond Burns, has to be Dowson; he really got to me when I started writing seriously, and he's still there in my heart. Kenneth Slessor is another of my favourites, again another encountered through school. Nowadays, I read almost whatever I can get my hands upon, which, if not critically discerning, is at least passionately enthusiastic.

I had a feeling, AnnMarie, that the thread would grab you, since I dropped by your website.
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Old Dec 12 2004, 03:31 PM   #5
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Very sneaky, Ghyle! I started writing poetry when I was in fourth grade. And even back then, Burns was my favorite!

And of course, it helped that I had a clue of HOW to pronouce his words, when it came time to read them in high school. The way one classmate butchered Burns in the vernacular still makes me sputter!
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Old Dec 12 2004, 04:42 PM   #6
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AnnMarie, I had fun listening to my fellow students stumble over Chaucer, in my final year of High School. It wasn't that I could pronounce the words so much as they couldn't, and they applied their modern, Australian pronunciation in strange ways.
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tut, tut, tut Gyle.
I like what medieval stuff I've read. Dante and I think Mallory's in poetry but I've never got round to reading Chaucer. i dont have too much of a problem- i ended up having to translate a piece on chivalry for my boyfriend the history student! i thought he was the one that was supposed to understand this sort of stuff.
Robert Bjrns is ok.
I dont know who m y favourite poet is though.
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Well, in the sense most westerners think of poetry, my favorite is probably A.B. "Banjo" Patterson ("The Man From Snowy River" et al). One of my must-buys the last time I went to Australia was a book of his poetry.

Otherwise, I rather like Japanese poetry. Haiku, waka, etc., particularly "message" poems, mostly from the Heian period. As such I don't really have a favorite poet among them.
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tut, tut, tut Gyle.
I like what medieval stuff I've read. Dante and I think Mallory's in poetry but I've never got round to reading Chaucer. i dont have too much of a problem- i ended up having to translate a piece on chivalry for my boyfriend the history student! i thought he was the one that was supposed to understand this sort of stuff.
Robert Bjrns is ok.
I dont know who m y favourite poet is though.

Mallory... not too bad. I liked Chaucer. Liked Tennyson, too.
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Anareth!

I have the Banjo's collected poems, and I have several collections of Lawson's as well. I borrowed a book that you might like to have a look at, since it includes the Banjo's verse from WW1... it's called From Gallipoli to Gaza: the Desert Poets of World War One by Jill Hamilton (Simon & Schuster, 2003) ISBN 0-7318-1187-9.

It covers a few other poets I know of, including Leon Gellert, who is a war poet worth looking into.
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Personally, I'm fond of Ogden Nash. In 8th grade I even had my stuffy English teacher howling at my rendition of "The Hat" (we had to memorize at least 20 lines of poetry and recite them every Friday). 'Course, Dr. Seus has his moments, too.
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what about Hillaire Belloc-
"Matilda told such dreadful lies..."

I love the one about the bacteria.
I prefer humourous stuff!
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Do you all "only" read English poetry? ...

How about some translated, better yet, other languages
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I cant read other languages much
Dante was originally latin...
I probably have read some without realising!
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Hans, since my only aptitude is for English, with various factors influencing this situation, I am reliant upon a lot of translations for my reading pleasure.

I can, with dictionaries, tackle Swedish a word at a time, and I can work out with cribs decent enough translations of German verse, mainly Heine and similar poets, since they strike my fancy, but yes, I do read a lot in Translation. French, German, Russian, Swedish, Chinese, and so on.

I like my translations to read as poems, as well, so literal translations are less interesting to me than those capturing the essence of the thing, reflecting its nature as a poem.

One of the most influential poets in my life has been Yevtuschenko, btw.
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I haven't read many poems, but I love the poets like John Mansfield and Samual Collarage~ I can read poem;s in french, it's just harder and takes me longer!
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How about some translated, better yet, other languages

Any suggestions, Hans? In American schools, they tend to stick to American and English poets. I do recall trying to read a translation of an Indian poet, but the piece lost it's swing in English, and I didn't like it.
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Uh, I don't mean translations AnneMarie, I mean reading other poets in their own language

I doubt you would know any of the Dutch ones

For Germany one can't help but mention Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Friedrich Schiller and Heintich Heine of course.

For France: Charles Pierre Beaudelaire, Henry Breton, Rabelais and of course Molière.

The Indian poet you mentioned, was it Sarojini Nadu?

And how about Jorge Luis Borges?
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For France, may I also add Verlaine, Rimbaud, and Mallarme.

There's Lorca from Spain; Transtromer and Strindberg from Sweden (yes, that Strindberg), and there's Brecht from Germany.

Hans: do you remember where Trakl is from?

I almost forgot--Hesse, Holderlin, and Rilke.

From Russia, Pushkin, Yevtuschenko, Akhmatova.

There are plenty of good Australian poets -- see the recommended reading thread for a start.

A brilliant publisher is Bloodaxe Books, in England; they've a web presence.
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To read a poet in their native language, one has to understand that language.

I might be able to swing the Spaniards...
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AnnMarie!

Here's a poem I found that you may appreciate.

ciao!

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JUSTICE TO SCOTLAND: AN UNPUBLISHED POEM BY BURNS.
COMMUNICATED BY THE EDINBURG SOCIETY FOR PROMOTING CIVILIZATION IN ENGLAND

O mickle yeuks the keckle doup,
An' a' unsicker girns the graith,
For wae and wae the crowdies loup
O'er jouk an' hallan, braw an' baith.
Where ance the coggie hirpled fair,
And blithesome poortith toomed the loof
There's nae a burnie giglet rare
But blaws in ilka jinking coof.

The routhie bield that gars the gear
Is gone where glint the pawky een.
And aye the stound is birkin lear
Where sconnered yowies wheepen yestreen.
The creeshie rax wi' skelpin' kaes
Nae mair the howdie bicker whangs,
Nor weanies in their wee bit claes
Glour light as lammies wi' their sangs.

Yet leeze me on my bonnie byke!
My drappie aiblins blinks the noo,
An' leesome luve has lapt the dyke
Forgatherin' just a wee bit fou.
And SCOTIA! while thy rantin' lunt
Is mirk and moop with gowans fine,
I'll stowlins pit my unco brunt,
An' cleek my duds for auld lang syne.
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