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Old Oct 8 2007, 09:24 AM   #1
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Old Oct 8 2007, 10:38 AM   #2
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As portraits go this I like this one even better than the previous one.

The only, minor problem, I have is with the hair. On top of her head it is excellent but the hanging down part has a rigid/unnatural feeling? I also like the fabric of the dress, this is great work!
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Old Oct 8 2007, 11:06 AM   #3
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As portraits go this I like this one even better than the previous one.

The only, minor problem, I have is with the hair. On top of her head it is excellent but the hanging down part has a rigid/unnatural feeling? I also like the fabric of the dress, this is great work!
Ah yes I was not liking that myself, but I'm short on Hair Meshes that were fitting for her particular hair style so I had to make due with what I had on hand. LoL

I may tweak it a bit later on when I'm finished with these next few renders coming up.

Thanks for your input sir, every little bit helps.

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I never pictured her with long hair - I see her with short, curled, silver-white hair. Like a grandma.

And since we only see her as a very small child or as a very old lady, I don't like the uniform; with the wierd hair it makes this pic look like something out of Star Trek!

I would change the clothes to make it reflect her mostly-retired status in PiF and PiS.


(I do love that you're doing this, it's just so very different from what the books put in my head!)
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Old Oct 8 2007, 11:29 AM   #5
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I never pictured her with long hair - I see her with short, curled, silver-white hair. Like a grandma.

And since we only see her as a very small child or as a very old lady, I don't like the uniform; with the wierd hair it makes this pic look like something out of Star Trek!

I would change the clothes to make it reflect her mostly-retired status in PiF and PiS.


(I do love that you're doing this, it's just so very different from what the books put in my head!)
Actually that isn't a uniform she's wearing, and when dressing her I had to consider the time frame that we are talking about here. We know what we expect "grandmas" to look like in this era, but styles and fashions evolve and change. Also this is a portrait so I wanted something fittingly appropriate to the occasion.

Hair styles vary and evolve just as much as clothing, we must avoid stereotypes or we'll end up with cookie cutter characterisations of everyone we read about. While her hair is longer than perhaps you'd think, it would be in her habit to keep it tied back, especially whilst toiling in her gardens.

Thanks for commenting, please do keep sharing your ideas and thoughts, its very educational

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I like the long hair, I always find long hair elegant on "little old ladies" perhaps because most do end up having it short and curly. I also like her outfit; as Hans mentioned the texture is really nice.

Her eyes are good; kindly and properly aged. The rest of her face doesn't show her age, and so it looks a bit off to me.
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Her eyes are marvelous!!!! I think her mouth needs some bit of adjustment. The creases on each side seem a bit too deep to me. (I draw a little myself I know it helps to get other opinions)
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She looks fabulous, especially her ears. However, her lower face looks a bit too unwrinkled.
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Old Oct 9 2007, 03:29 PM   #9
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She looks fabulous, especially her ears. However, her lower face looks a bit too unwrinkled.
Quite right, they have excellent skin care in the future. :P
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This is marvelous...that you can do all of this only on the computer. I really like how the top part of her face looks...it is well aged for an older woman...but not so wrinkled that she looks ancient. I really like how you did her clothing, it is very elegant looking. Please keep up your lovely work, it is wonderful to get to see them.
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This is marvelous...that you can do all of this only on the computer. I really like how the top part of her face looks...it is well aged for an older woman...but not so wrinkled that she looks ancient. I really like how you did her clothing, it is very elegant looking. Please keep up your lovely work, it is wonderful to get to see them.
Ah dear lady, hearing praise from such a masterful talent as yourself is very humbling indeed.

I do thank you for your input and for taking the time to view my small contributions.

More will soon follow, and Afra is in the works. I shall find it highly amusing to see everyone's reactions to him. Especially those in his Fan Club. LoL
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More will soon follow, and Afra is in the works. I shall find it highly amusing to see everyone's reactions to him. Especially those in his Fan Club. LoL
Yes!!! It will be very interesting to see your Afra and find out what the Fan Club think of him!
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I can't wait for Afra!

Wrinkles are very hard to do on the computer... I couldn't even get started on a face, much less make wrinkles.
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Interesting portrait, thanks for sharing

I have a different image in my head, but it's always fun to see others' perspectives, especially those talented enough to turn mental pictures into ones on the screen
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Thanks for sharing these images, Maximillian! I wouldn't know how to begin to do something like that.



I am a grandmother. My hair color is what I call "transitional" and, while it is not really long it is certainly not short and curly. Many have tried to curl my hair over the years and only one ever succeeded. A week later about half of it fell out Needless to say my hair has been very straight ever since. Oddly enough both my daughter and granddaughter have very curly hair!
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::looks around:: I could have sworn I commented on this before!

I like her, although I do agree the lower half of her face looks too young. Which is a difficult question to balance...Reidinger is described, to me, as looking someone in their 40s or 50s, and then we find out he's 110! So I could entirely see Dorotea as looking younger, from an intellectual standpoint. But my gut says the skin of her lower face is a little too smooth to match with the upper half.

When are you going to show us Reidinger or Afra?
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Cannot contain the excitement I am holding in for Afra. You do a wonderful job with the portraits Maximillian. Since I am not artistically inclined with a pencil, my thoughts on the matter really are irrelevant. There seems to be something itching me though about the upper lip...perhaps it's that excellent skin care regimen. haha. Looking forward to more!
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I like her, although I do agree the lower half of her face looks too young. Which is a difficult question to balance...Reidinger is described, to me, as looking someone in their 40s or 50s, and then we find out he's 110! So I could entirely see Dorotea as looking younger, from an intellectual standpoint. But my gut says the skin of her lower face is a little too smooth to match with the upper half.

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Cannot contain the excitement I am holding in for Afra. You do a wonderful job with the portraits Maximillian. Since I am not artistically inclined with a pencil, my thoughts on the matter really are irrelevant. There seems to be something itching me though about the upper lip...perhaps it's that excellent skin care regimen. haha. Looking forward to more!
Ah I have been neglecting my duties here it seems, I do apologise that I've been away for a bit of time, however I just want to reassure you that the renders for Afra et al are still in the works and I'll try and get something postable as soon as other obligations have been fulfilled

I thank you for your continued interest in my work and hope that you will enjoy them as much as I do making them.

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Glad to have you back Max, and yes you were missed. I am also eagerly awaiting your next renditions of Anne characters.
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