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Old May 21 2005, 04:38 AM   #1
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I've just started the series again, and am getting really annoyed trying to work out how acorna's head scarfs are tied on to hide her horn. Does anyone know?
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Old May 21 2005, 05:17 AM   #2
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turban isn't it?
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Old May 29 2005, 04:42 PM   #3
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In a pinch, she could even just drape it loosely over - so long as it's not tight enough that the horn pokes the fabric.
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hmm. frankly i have no clue. mabey like a "babushka" scarf
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I imagine when she was young it would have been fairly easy to hide since it was small. Once she got older didn't they move to elaborate hats to hide it?
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When she went on her quest they had a large supply of various costumes, all of which included some way of hiding her horn. How long is it, anyway? I don't picture it very long - four inches or so. No more than six inches.
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Old Jun 16 2005, 03:23 PM   #7
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I was imagining it Middle Eastern style. You know, draped across the forehead and under the eyes.
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that would work..
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Yeah, You'd think people'd talk though...I mean, how many people do you see walking the streets with a head dress like that usually??? It'd go well in a fancy dress party though
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Old Jul 5 2005, 06:42 PM   #10
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They had a variety of disguises, all involving various ways to cover the horn - hats, scarves, probably bandages.
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True for all we know it was probably considered by the other people part of her religion to dress that way .... you never know with some of the religions in the series
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her human friends tried first to hide her in an outfit that sounded like the ones used in some moslem countries to hide their women while in public.guys being guys, they didnt really think about how to make something that would do the job, stay put, and be easy for little acorna to put on and off, so she was discovered by the merchant uncle.

then, when she went off in search of her home planet, there was a description of a really odd outfit, that had a hat-ish thing over her horn, and boot like things on her hooves, to hide her equine look somewhat. but that wouldnt change her eyes, or shape of her head/face, though....

would need a total mask, and that isnt exactly confidence inspiring when meeting new people?

when she got to her home planet, she found that her people actually use 'horn hats', for decoration, for damping down telepathic sends, and the like.
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Mostly Anne and Margaret did the headscarf thing--I would think a turban maybe when she was older. As someone says when she was younger the horn was much smaller and could have been concealed by even a regular scarf. A structured hat or --I've lost the word--when Mexican women (historical costume) drape their heads and shoulders with a heavier woven scarf that sometimes comes down to shade the eyes?
In our later books, we didn't try to disguise her so much since she usually was among her own kind or those who knew of the Linyaari.
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Mantilla?
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I always think of lace when I think of mantilla although I doubt that's accurate. Rebozo is more what I had in mind since it's usually heavier woven, often striped.
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then, when she went off in search of her home planet, there was a description of a really odd outfit, that had a hat-ish thing over her horn, and boot like things on her hooves, to hide her equine look somewhat. but that wouldnt change her eyes, or shape of her head/face, though....

would need a total mask, and that isnt exactly confidence inspiring when meeting new people?
Acorna's face was not so distinctly equine that it would be off-putting. She was, in fact, considered quite beautiful by humans, so it wasn't that severe. She is never referenced as being horse-faced or having equine facial features, aside from the 'liquid' quality to her eyes and a longer bone structure than is common for human stock.

Acorna only had to wear disguises on the rare occasions where she was in public before she became a ward of the Delzaki-Li consortium (however it is spelled...). After that, she was a well-known figure and 'safe' because of those connections. She had a couple of outfits with hats and scarves, and the rest of the time, she was on the ship and out of public view so a large wardrobe of disguising outfits wasn't really needed.

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Old Oct 15 2010, 06:32 PM   #18
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I don't recall which book, but she wish she had keep her mining hard hat, for it had a place for her horn, to make more easier to wear.
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I don't remember which book either but I remember the scene.
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hmm, no, not a matilla. im Catholic, and wear one or a hat every time i go to Mass. a old spanish wedding or other wise fancy dress occassion would have the mantilla lifted high in the back with an intracately carved comb
http://reviews.ebay.ca/Spanish-Manti...00000004669481

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http://simitras-exquisite-things.com/mantilla.html

so, a mantilla comb lifts the back, not the front. perhaps a present day burqua (gag...)might have been a simpler way for the boys to conciel her....but why didnt the high techsensors that detected 4 people on board not report that one was not human? always wondered about that!


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Maybe they weren't prepared to detect that? I mean, this was like a first contact type story and maybe she was humanoid enough to pass? I didn't write this part of the series but that would be my guess.
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but why didnt the high techsensors that detected 4 people on board not report that one was not human? always wondered about that!
It all depends on how the sensors work. In general, 'human' lifesigns consist of a human-sized bodymass, heart-rate, breathing rate, etc. Acorna's phsyiology is apparently significantly similar to human, to the extent that the people doing tests on her at the start of the first book don't find it odd enough to be remarkable. It's understandable that a sensor system calibrated to detect humans would mistake her for one, if that's correct - her body would be behaving much like a human one, on that level.
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Just had a twig of a idea, perhaps they could 'mask' it somehow?
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I can't help wondering if anyone read the REST of the books with the various things done with the horn?
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I can't help wondering if anyone read the REST of the books with the various things done with the horn?
I have for the most part, its just been too long for me I had a harder time reading some of them for they were in paper back and/or audio.
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I thought audio was easier for you, GinnyStar?
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Yes and no, its is but with my form of hearing loss, I loose the beginning of something, I lose the whole meaning of something. Think of a round shape with a section cut out, they call it a 'cookie cutter' type of loss.

Its hard to enplane and I did enjoy some of the books, no pun, but there were so many twists in the later books along with out a Linyaari key on how to say them Margaret did a good job, and they put in the beginning of the book in the Talking Book which is how I listen to some of them.
What a mouthful or ear full in my case.

They did have a hat to hide their thoughts from others on the homeworld.

I haven't gotten to all of them its half and half mix.
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I'm sure it's also harder with audio when you're trying to find something - you can't just flip through it!

It's been a long time since I read these. I don't think I have read the latest one or two - I read the first one about her children, and all I remember is I found it confusing.

It's on my list of stuff to reread - but my list of stuff to read is very, very long...
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Actually, just for future reference, Margaret's guide worked for all of the books. On the audio ones they might have mispronounced the names, I'm not sure, but what Anne said was it was "anything a horse could pronounce" and we stayed away from certain consonants. Margaret said the language was related to Navajo. Most of the names I invented were actually common names with double vowels so they weren't hard to pronounce.
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I'm amazed that you found it confusing, Brenda. I thought those books were pretty straightforward except for the last one, maybe, when we got into time travel again, and even that one did work out.
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Like I said, it's been a long time since I read them. I really don't remember much of anything after the first two or three, which I had read more times.
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yes, of course-how the daughter of that child molester knew about the story of unicorn horns being aphrodeiacs, and that little witch sent her bots after Acorna to catch at least her, and cut it off. and find out where her junk man partner and his cat found th others. but it was interesting to see how they dressed on her home world, using the hats to 'mute' mindspeech. i have to say, i got a bit of a laugh from that....reminded me of that big metal thing they stick in the mouth of some horns to mute them! ^_^

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[QUOTE=GinnyStar) its is but with my form of hearing loss, I loose the beginning of something, I lose the whole meaning of something. Think of a round shape with a section cut out, they call it a 'cookie cutter' type of loss.
[/QUOTE] if it isnt too pushy a question, what sort of hearing loss do you have? mine is Meniere's Disease, which comes with the fun added bonus of balance loss, drop attacks and cool things of that sort<wry grin> makes me wish they would hurry up with the shellpeople assistances, so we all could enjoy that help ! (((hugs)))
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That is the one I'm thinking of, I liked Acorna's Rebels the best.

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The editor liked it best too. It was the one with the most cats!
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Mine is called a 'cookie cuter' Sometime in area that have a lot of background noise, I can miss the beginning of words, or even on audio. I have a hard time translated what on my mind into writing.
I mean to answer you early on but my system froze on me! Irking to say the least. I'm trying to get some work done, and its harder when you know what you want to say/type but you can't!

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You got it, its a bit easier with indexing ability if you know were you left off.
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