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Old Jan 31 2010, 11:28 PM   #1
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Okay I received my Mathew Hargreaves book today woohoo but I have one small question, how do I know what printing number it is (example 123 of 500 or 7 of 500)? It's signed by both authors and is cloth-bound with a picture of Anne on the front. I'll photobucket it later but was curious as to the numbering of them, that's all.
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Old Jan 31 2010, 11:45 PM   #2
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That's not a printing number, it's a...hmm, not sure right now what that's called.

At any rate, the copies are not numbered; that's not always done with limited editions, sometimes they are numbered but sometimes they are not.
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Old Feb 1 2010, 03:16 AM   #3
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What Cheryl said, the limitation is indicated (wasn't that done in felt pen?) but the individual books are not numbered.

I think the end paper/boards are bronze (printed); quite unusual, a metal colour inside a book.
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Old Feb 1 2010, 11:47 PM   #4
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Here's the piccy as promised.
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Old Feb 2 2010, 02:48 AM   #5
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Looks like you enjoyed an immaculate reception

I like that pic of Anne, despite it being b&w it shows such warmth.
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Old Feb 3 2010, 12:04 AM   #6
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WOW!!! Jube...Congratulations...it's in lovely condition. I also love that photo of Anne...it was the pose I chose for her last portrait.
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Old Feb 3 2010, 02:03 AM   #7
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Thanks everyone and it's in very good condition, almost new WOOHOO
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Old Feb 3 2010, 02:54 AM   #8
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Persons who own Hargreaves do tend to be persons who know how to care for books
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Old Feb 3 2010, 08:56 PM   #9
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Hi everyone,

The McCaffrey bibiography was only 500 copies. After they were numbered and all sold out, the remaining copies were destroyed. The same was done with the Charles De Lint book I published - The Riddle of the Wren, and for The MinoTaur Trilogy by Thomas Burnett Swann. In the case of the Swann book I still have brand new copies left over.
The point being is the limitation statement is accurate. In the 90's at least one publisher was found to be double numbering their "limited" editions. So if there 2000 numbered, there were now 4000 copies out there. Hence they lied and the editions value on the collector market was zero.
The copper colored endpapers are a paper that was manufactured that way. Ufortunately for the book the copper coloring can scuff. Had I known this I would have had the copper side plastic laminated. The fiction books I published had illustrated endpapers and they were laminated to prevent the scuffing.
If you are also lucky, keep an eye out for the paperbound update I did a couple years later when Anne was the GOH in Canada, I think for a Westercon.
Due to finacial stress I may be forced to sell my collection. Though I would not piece it out. I would prefer to sell it intact.
BTW, Mathew in my case is spelled with oane "t".

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Old Feb 3 2010, 10:07 PM   #10
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HOLY COW....the man himself

Being a fan and a delighted owner of one of these lovely books...I'd like to say thank you...for the wonderful first hand information about the book and how it was made.

I am very sorry to hear that the times are such, that you are thinking about having to sell your collection. That would be a nightmare for several of us who have cherrished collection here on MoM...good luck and I hope your fortunes change for the better before having to part with it.
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What she said!

I too own a copy of this wonderful book! It is truly helping me to expand my collection.

I am sorry to hear you may have to part with your collection Mathew. I hope for your sake that that doesn't happen.

Wow! It's wonderful to have you join us here! I hope you stay in touch....
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Old Feb 3 2010, 11:38 PM   #12
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From JUBE (who hasn't logged on because I am):

My appologies for the spelling mistake - I didn't mean to offend - OOoops!

Sorry to hear of losing your collection, hope life straightens out for you before that happens. And what Samsara said: WELCOME and hope you stay in touch with us, especially as there's lots of fans who would love and welcome your input on all things regarding Anne McCaffrey
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Old Feb 4 2010, 02:40 AM   #13
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Mathew, I probably have typed your name wrong often

I, too, want to use the opportunity to thank you for what we Dutch call "a monk's work", a helluva job. And I know as I am still in the process to complete your work by adding to it while building on your sturdy fundament.

Would you be interested in corrections? While going through Anne's books at her home I found mail from you (CD with cover art a.o. things); are you still updating your data and if yes, for all languages or just English?

Side question: not so long ago an uncorrected proof/book without cover and endpapers of 40 Years was offered on eBay. Any idea how many of those are going around? It might it mean that maybe a few of the surplus were not destroyed?
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Old Feb 4 2010, 09:13 PM   #14
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Hi everyone,

Well the computer just ate my last reply as I finished it. Sigh. I also could not remember my password. Advancing decrepitude is hell!
Thank you for the compliments. I know the book helped a lot of people and preserved the knowledge for others. It was a learning experience for me and driven by my appreciation of Dragonsong and Dragonsinger. It was certainly a vastly better item than that Ghastly limited edition I copublished of "Habit is an Old Horse". What a horror story that was back then. I also printed the book in case anyone cares.
A year or two back I told Anne it was the emotional descriptions for each character that made them live. The title of her non-fiction article "tell a Story and Feel It" sums it up for the writer. However - Read a Story and Feel it - is what makes them live in us as readers.
The bibliography took ten years to complete. Once it was completed there was nothing left in me. It took a lot of effort to assemble the update a couple years later. After that I could not read anything by her for a long time. There was one book I was waiting for someday to appear. When Pegesus in Flight arrived I was right there.
I had changed and was doing other things. But once recharged the research for two more history books started. After fifteen years I am now doing the product photography for them. The hot one covers the manufacturing history of vacuum coffee makers. Most people like or drink coffee. Until now, the long period it encompasses has not been told. The other volume will cover Toaster service sets from 1932 to 1955 but also cover the history of the Popup Toaster from 1918 to some undetermined ending date. Sorry, no flying toasters had dragonwings or could go between.
While all of this is going on I am still buying her books. But, I had changed as a reader and researcher. I found history books more interesting. And, fiction reading fell away for me. The other author I kept up on is Charles De Lint but the same problem - I have read them.
I also have yet to put up a website on Thomas Burnett Swann. I have everything he wrote and have prmission to place it all up for the public to read. I also have family supplied photos to use. It will be kept simple as it really is about the writing and preserving them for future readers.
Time for a chocolate chip cookie...

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Old Feb 4 2010, 09:16 PM   #15
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Darn, the paperbound versions of the bibliography are the same paper contents as the hardcover. They were overrun designated for review copies and lacking the frills of the boards and signature sheets. There were about 25 to 30 of them. They are not uncorrected proofs.

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Old Feb 5 2010, 03:38 AM   #16
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Thanks for clearing that up, Mathew
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Old Feb 7 2010, 02:00 PM   #17
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Wow, Mathew!! Thank you so very much for all your information! I have two copies of the book one.....like Hans......I use to mark (very lightly in pencil) what I already own and the other is a copy that Anne gave to Radcliffe! Both copies are treasures and all your hard work is greatly appreciated!
Sorry to hear you may have to sell your collection....would that I could give you an offer for it all because I would in a heartbeat!
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Old Feb 7 2010, 10:30 PM   #18
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Mathewdh! Thanks for the info on the books! Welcome to MoM!
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Mathew, I would also like to send my appreciation for all of you hard work! I own two copies, one that is getting worn out from use, the other to keep in nice shape for the future. It has been indispensible in helping me find (and know what I have found) those elusive, little known/hard to find gems.
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I just bought my second copy too! I never thought I would own one copy let alone two copies!!! I bought it because it is suppose to come with a copy of Two More Years. I've been looking for Two More Years for what seems like a long time. It was in the fine print which I overlooked before. We shall have to wait and see what I get.
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Oh, I do hope it's there, DB!!! Can't wait to hear about it!
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Old Feb 15 2010, 11:27 AM   #22
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I got it! And Two more years is in pristine condition without any bent corners or markings. I don't think its ever been read!







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That looks absolutey new indeed! Well done, Dragonbuddy
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That really does look great Dragonbuddy! Wow, I gotta get me 2 More years!
And now you have 2 copies of 40 years... 1 for your collection & 1 to use! Awesome!
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Samsara, I think I'm going to sell my second copy of 40 years to pay for my book collecting hobby and the Two more years. Although, I'd like to have two! The only reason I bought it was to get the Two More Years which I couldn't find by itself (other than the $185 on bookfinder). Sadly, I listed it on ebay so I'll have to see if it sells. I'm just going to keep the other copy nice and write in Becky's and Phil S-P Guides.
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That's a super find DB! Glad you got both books! Write away in mine...that's what it's for after all.
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