Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent - A Meeting of Minds

***Hans*** · Jun 10 2006, 04:47 PM

Huh? What? I hear you say

But yes, not an Anne McCaffrey book for this Collecting Highlight. But of course this book has something AMC related or it wouldn't be a Collecting Highlight. It's always debatable anyway if something is a Collecting Highlight, but if I think it is for me you'll have to suffer what I read about it

So, Firebrands, subtitled The Heroines of Science Fiction & Fantasy with lots and lost of art by Ron Miller and text by Pamela Sargent (a well known SF author and editor of many an SF anthology) holds one of the not so well known pictures of Lessa and Ramoth and that is why the book deserved its place. So without further ado the pictures first. I am not judging quality or Perneseness, just picked up on this because it is virtually never mentioned

This is the book, published by Thunder's Mouth Press, New York, 1998 and by Paper Tiger in the UK in the same year. ISBN for the US edition is: 1-56025-164-6. It is dedicated to "Polly Freas, science fiction heroine".

It is an A4 size, large paperback (slightly larger than letter size).

Here's the title page with one of the many scantily clad heroines (why are they always nearly naked; not that I object but it seems such nonsense

) but with a very nice steel clad Princess Bronwyn.

And here are Lessa and Ramoth, appearing on page 88, in the chapter "The 1960's to 1970's". (This one is a scan, not a photograph)

Lessa appears in chapter 3. Chapter 1 is about the beginnings to the 1930's, chapter two about books published in the 1940's - 1950's and chapter 4 for books from the 1980's - 1990's. A very nice book to read if you are interested in the combination of art and SF history!

The book, which is also available as a hardcover, isn't especially rare but the market is also not overflowing with copies. I found three on eBay. One of which is signed by both authors and priced at $ 36.50. Regular copies sell for anything between $ 1 to $ 20, depending on the usual factors.

**Cheryl** · Jun 10 2006, 05:17 PM

I've seen the print before, and wondered what it was for/from. Now I know, marvelous Hans!

Was the print created specifically for this book, or for some other purpose originally and just reprinted here?

***Becky*** · Jun 10 2006, 08:11 PM

I love the picture of the dragons in different flight poses. But it looks like Ramoth is about to bite Lessa's head off.

I'll be adding this to my list of things to buy.

I love these little bits in books.

**Cheryl** · Jun 10 2006, 09:08 PM

Oh *snort*

Just checked out the book on amazon.com, and for the "Statistically Improbable Phrases" in this book it lists only "strong female characters"

Surely the notion of a strong female character is not so rare as to be a statistically improbably phrase!

Lady Maelin · Jun 11 2006, 02:12 PM

Hans, Thank you for putting this up, I will probabley go and get one for myself, seeing as it is an art book. Not to mention that it has a painting of a Pern character in it. WOW!!! Ramoth has got one of her bad attitude days showing.

***Hans*** · Jun 12 2006, 03:46 AM

Cheryl, as far as I know all art was created especially for this book and thus original to this title. Ron Miller may have sold the originals, I don't know but it bears investigating

Mary · Jun 12 2006, 05:28 AM

I like the way Lessa is well dressed for the cold. And you can see the straps on the dragon. Not too sure about the teeth or the eye.

Spaceman Spiff · Jun 12 2006, 06:01 AM

*nearly gags when I see Ramoth's head*

Hehe! She almost looks like a little hatchling bird

This would be an absolutely lovely picture if the head was changed, and maybe the webbed legs... but I really love everything else about it, and that fur looks marvellous

Lady Maelin · Jun 12 2006, 02:13 PM

Spiff, The outfit is lovely, and the fur has been done very well indeed.

shanmyster · Aug 9 2008, 12:10 AM

well... I gotta say I pictured Lessa to be a bit..... younger... her weyrhide (I guess) is pretty neat.

but I am VERY VERY disappointed with the dragons.. they look more like Pterodactyls. Although the green looks very pretty. Ramnoth.. *sigh* And the eyes are not what I would have expected..

Sorry.. just my opinion.

kay norton · Jun 19 2010, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanmyster

well... I gotta say I pictured Lessa to be a bit..... younger... her weyrhide (I guess) is pretty neat.

but I am VERY VERY disappointed with the dragons.. they look more like Pterodactyls. Although the green looks very pretty. Ramnoth.. *sigh* And the eyes are not what I would have expected..

Sorry.. just my opinion.

Ugh, you're not the only one disappointed.. I was expecting, well - something better at least.. Now, all I can see is that the images look like a fake fairy tale book..

it's frustrating..

Jun 10 2006, 04:47 PM	#1
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent Huh? What? I hear you say But yes, not an Anne McCaffrey book for this Collecting Highlight. But of course this book has something AMC related or it wouldn't be a Collecting Highlight. It's always debatable anyway if something is a Collecting Highlight, but if I think it is for me you'll have to suffer what I read about it So, Firebrands, subtitled The Heroines of Science Fiction & Fantasy with lots and lost of art by Ron Miller and text by Pamela Sargent (a well known SF author and editor of many an SF anthology) holds one of the not so well known pictures of Lessa and Ramoth and that is why the book deserved its place. So without further ado the pictures first. I am not judging quality or Perneseness, just picked up on this because it is virtually never mentioned This is the book, published by Thunder's Mouth Press, New York, 1998 and by Paper Tiger in the UK in the same year. ISBN for the US edition is: 1-56025-164-6. It is dedicated to "Polly Freas, science fiction heroine". It is an A4 size, large paperback (slightly larger than letter size). Here's the title page with one of the many scantily clad heroines (why are they always nearly naked; not that I object but it seems such nonsense ) but with a very nice steel clad Princess Bronwyn. And here are Lessa and Ramoth, appearing on page 88, in the chapter "The 1960's to 1970's". (This one is a scan, not a photograph) Lessa appears in chapter 3. Chapter 1 is about the beginnings to the 1930's, chapter two about books published in the 1940's - 1950's and chapter 4 for books from the 1980's - 1990's. A very nice book to read if you are interested in the combination of art and SF history! The book, which is also available as a hardcover, isn't especially rare but the market is also not overflowing with copies. I found three on eBay. One of which is signed by both authors and priced at $ 36.50. Regular copies sell for anything between $ 1 to $ 20, depending on the usual factors. __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Jun 10 2006, 05:17 PM	#2
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent I've seen the print before, and wondered what it was for/from. Now I know, marvelous Hans! Was the print created specifically for this book, or for some other purpose originally and just reprinted here? __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Jun 10 2006, 08:11 PM	#3
*Becky* Coelura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington Gender: F Fan of: Fav character - Lunzie Now Reading: Love reading Lanen's books too	Re: Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent I love the picture of the dragons in different flight poses. But it looks like Ramoth is about to bite Lessa's head off. I'll be adding this to my list of things to buy. I love these little bits in books. __________________ Becky aka Coelura1

Jun 10 2006, 09:08 PM	#4
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent Oh snort Just checked out the book on amazon.com, and for the "Statistically Improbable Phrases" in this book it lists only "strong female characters" Surely the notion of a strong female character is not so rare as to be a statistically improbably phrase! __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Jun 11 2006, 02:12 PM	#5
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent Hans, Thank you for putting this up, I will probabley go and get one for myself, seeing as it is an art book. Not to mention that it has a painting of a Pern character in it. WOW!!! Ramoth has got one of her bad attitude days showing. __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Jun 12 2006, 03:46 AM	#6
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent Cheryl, as far as I know all art was created especially for this book and thus original to this title. Ron Miller may have sold the originals, I don't know but it bears investigating __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Jun 12 2006, 05:28 AM	#7
Mary Inactive Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cork Ireland Gender: F	Re: Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent I like the way Lessa is well dressed for the cold. And you can see the straps on the dragon. Not too sure about the teeth or the eye.

Jun 12 2006, 06:01 AM	#8
Spaceman Spiff Inactive Join Date: Mar 2005 Gender: M Fan of: PERN!!! Now Reading: Lord of the Rings	Re: Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent nearly gags when I see Ramoth's head Hehe! She almost looks like a little hatchling bird This would be an absolutely lovely picture if the head was changed, and maybe the webbed legs... but I really love everything else about it, and that fur looks marvellous

Jun 12 2006, 02:13 PM	#9
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent Spiff, The outfit is lovely, and the fur has been done very well indeed. __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Aug 9 2008, 12:10 AM	#10
shanmyster Inactive Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Benden Weyr Gender: M Fan of: DRAGON RIDERS OF PERN!!!	Re: Collecting Highlight (20) - Firebrands by Ron Miller and Pamela Sargent well... I gotta say I pictured Lessa to be a bit..... younger... her weyrhide (I guess) is pretty neat. but I am VERY VERY disappointed with the dragons.. they look more like Pterodactyls. Although the green looks very pretty. Ramnoth.. sigh And the eyes are not what I would have expected.. Sorry.. just my opinion.