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Old Dec 7 2009, 02:38 PM   #1
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Default Marion Zimmer Bradley’s Avalon series

Again, if this belongs anywhere else, you are free to move it.
I read the Lady of Avalon and The forest house from this author, and started The mists, but never finished. Saw the movie, thought, and thought it was ok.
What’s your opinion?
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I liked the first volume very much, the subsequent ones I didn't like. This often happens when a book becomes a smash hit and the author is asked/pushed to produce more like it. For me, it should have stayed the one volume, which was excellent.

Have not seen the movie.
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Old Dec 7 2009, 04:04 PM   #3
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I liked the first volume very much, the subsequent ones I didn't like. This often happens when a book becomes a smash hit and the author is asked/pushed to produce more like it. For me, it should have stayed the one volume, which was excellent.
Like I said, I haven’t read The Mists, but, from the little what I have read, I do agree with you. I couldn’t wait to read the first two of the series, but the Mists were obviously not so interesting. Shame, really.
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Old Dec 7 2009, 04:19 PM   #4
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What I also hate is that, when a book becomes a great succes, there are immediately copies/spin offs or whatever, in the same language as well as in other laguages. I remember even Dutch books like Bradley's being published shortly after hers. Probably something the publisher already had on his/her shelves but never deemed worth to publish! The most eminent example of this "practice" I found the frantic publishing after David Brown's atrocious book.

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Old Dec 8 2009, 09:31 AM   #5
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The first book she wrote was actually MISTS OF AVALON... when that was a big hit, she went back and wrote the other two, which (Story-wise) predate the events in Mists. I personally think Mists was the best of the three. Lady of Avalon was okay, but Forest House was a bit better.
The movie was so-so, and deviated from the book a bit.
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Old Dec 8 2009, 09:53 AM   #6
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Hmm I watched the Movie "The Mists of Avalon" it wasn't that great, however since it was based on the book I can see a book being much, much better. The movie seemed to miss out in a few places and wasn't well done.
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Uh, yeah, what AnneMarie said--"The Mists of Avalon" predates the others considerably and I am not sure that all the others were entirely written by Bradley.

The movie is about what you'd expect from a basic-cable attempt to condense hundreds and hundreds of pages into a few hours, and have to strictly edit for content. (HBO has ruined me for mini-series.)
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and I am not sure that all the others were entirely written by Bradley.
Oh?? How come?
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Old Dec 8 2009, 05:57 PM   #9
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I am pretty sure she wrote Lady of Avalon... but her health wasn't all that great between LADY and FOREST HOUSE, if I recall.
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I think she alone wrote both the Lady and Forest house, but there are even more books that tell the tales before these events and Anareth is right – not all are hers. But the first two I’m almost certain that are.
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There are only four books in the Avalon series: The Mists of Avalon (Knopf, 1983)
The Forest House (Viking, 1994)
Lady of Avalon (Viking, 1997)
Priestess of Avalon (Viking, 2001)

The last one was written with Diana Paxton.
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I read Mists and enjoyed it; quite a lot of her framing of the events of King Arthur's time are incorporated into my personal version of Arthurian "history" (along with Mary Stewart's version, which is fun as they are contradictory!).

Forest House was alright, an interesting look further back in time. I tried reading Lady of Avalon and couldn't get into it, it was just more of the same which was getting to be too much women-rule/men-suck/Goddess-centric type stuff, if I recall correctly. That just gets tiring to me.

Definitely in her later years Bradley was working more and more with other authors, but they were/are not always credited on the book cover. Most of the Darkover books in the late 1990s were co-authored, with credit given on the copyright page. (Funny enough to me, that's when the Darkover books started to get really good!)
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I liked Mists very much, didn't read the others.
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There are only four books in the Avalon series: The Mists of Avalon (Knopf, 1983)
The Forest House (Viking, 1994)
Lady of Avalon (Viking, 1997)
Priestess of Avalon (Viking, 2001)

The last one was written with Diana Paxton.
Hmm, that would actualy be true, as I just understood. Here’s Bradley’s complete work on the Avalon series, as listed on Wikipedia:
• Avalon Series
o The Mists of Avalon (1979)
 Mistress of Magic (audiobook edition of The Mists of Avalon, part 1) (1994)
 The High Queen (audiobook edition of The Mists of Avalon, part 2) (1994)
 The King Stag (audiobook edition of The Mists of Avalon, part 3) (1994)
 The Prisoner in the Oak (audiobook edition of The Mists of Avalon, part 4) (1994)
o The Forest House (1993) (with Diana L. Paxson) (also now known as The Forests of Avalon)
o Lady of Avalon (1997) (with Diana L. Paxson)
o Priestess of Avalon (2000) (with Diana L. Paxson)
o Ancestors of Avalon (2004) (written by Diana L. Paxson)
o Ravens of Avalon (2007) (written by Diana L. Paxson)
o Sword of Avalon (forthcoming in 2009) (written by Diana L. Paxson)
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Avalon - I liked the three books I read!!! However, I read them in French and do not recognize the English names of the books. I remember swallowing them whole

I wonder if I still have them (wanders off to search)
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o Priestess of Avalon (2000) (with Diana L. Paxson)
o Ancestors of Avalon (2004) (written by Diana L. Paxson)
o Ravens of Avalon (2007) (written by Diana L. Paxson)
o Sword of Avalon (forthcoming in 2009) (written by Diana L. Paxson)


I'd say that first one was MOSTLY Paxton, since MZB was ill, and died in Sept 1999. The last three are all Paxton.
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I read them all, but unfortunately not in publication order. I read along the plot chronologically and by the time I got to "mists" i was tired of it. I will re-read the series and I did enjoy it, but I plowed through them so quickly that by mists i was no longer enthralled. I just got sword of avalon but have been putting it off until after MQ
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Mists of Avalon is one of my favorite books of all time!! I tried to read the others but couldn't get into them. I did NOT like the movie that was made of Mists. Just not true to the book at all... IMHO.
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For me, the film was contradictory: at times it was so slow I almost fell asleep, and at other times it went so fast I couldn't keep up.
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