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I read on the forum in some of the thread that Pernese dragons don’t have spikes. Don’t they?
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Momma Wolf
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Neck ridges are mentioned, but no, no spikes. Spikes would make it hard to ride, don't you think?
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True, but what’s so different?
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I think ridges are rounded & spikes are pointer & sharp. When ridding rounded would be MUCH better than sharp & pointed.
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Momma Wolf
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Ridges would also be wider from side to side, and thicker, I should think.
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Ridges are, one assumes, the vetebral processeses that rise out along the spinal column. Look at a picture of a human skeleton and imagine that the dorsal "ridge" on the vertebrae extended up farther.
Spikes are just extraneous decorative bits stuck willy-nilly on fantasy dragons. |
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True… I thought as much.
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Dragons definitely don't have spikes! As other people have said, they have vertebral processes or protuberances, usually known as neckridges or ridges. In fact, the DLG sez:
On the back of a dragonet's neck is a line of ridges leading from just behind the head knobs down to the shoulder muscles of the wings. The ridges are not prominent between the wings and continue from just behind them to the forked end of the tail.A really excellent example? Michael Whelan's beautiful cover for All the Weyrs of Pern, a painting called "Weyrworld." And before you nitpickers get all over me: yes, Ruth's got one line of ridges happening on his tail, not two; yes, he's also got ridges on his face, not just his head and neck. But as an illustration of ridges v. spikes, it works, particularly in the way that Ruth's back has that nice little spinal ridge happening, but no actual bumps. A spiky dragon, on the other hand -- and I'll use another of Whelan's -- looks like this. Ouch! You definitely wouldn't want to stick your finger on one of those spines. ;> Or, you know, look up any of Ciruelo's dragons. Talk about spiky! |
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My favorite is the dragon on the cover of the US edition of Get Of the Unicorn with it's Stegosaurus plates - how would a rider sit on that thing talk about OUCH!
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My personal favorite spiky dragon is the original 1971 cover of Dragonquest, where Canth has (no kidding) spikes, horns and antlers.F'nor'd probably impale himself just getting on or off in a hurry--not good
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Also riders/passages can be press in to the neck ridges from the air presser in fight, Also both can use them to hang on too.
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