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View Poll Results: What colour is dragon dung?
baby brown 12 28.57%
fawn 4 9.52%
ecru 6 14.29%
beige 5 11.90%
purple monkey dishwasher colour, stupid! 15 35.71%
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Old Feb 4 2005, 04:54 PM   #41
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Which, Edith, helps support the thesis that dragons dump their loads between
unfortunately, Ghyle...that doesn't support "squat" --neither do cats! They don't spontaneously dump their system (like cattle, horses, and MSWindows) & just because cats don't doesn't equate to cats going between...they wait until they need to go & then find a sand pit or litter box

So what's the difficulty in believing that dragons would hold it until they need to go then fly outside the Weyr to relieve themselves???
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Perhaps, having some feline-like qualities, dragons dig a hole and burry their you-know-what. Just look at them! Almost all dragons look more feline than reptillian (anatomicaly anyway), just compare the body shape of a dragon to that of a cat and that of a large lizard. Perhaps they are more like cats than we think... Just a thought.
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Old Feb 6 2005, 05:33 PM   #43
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they're supposed to be more equine than reptillian!
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Old Feb 7 2005, 12:47 PM   #44
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they're supposed to be more equine than reptillian!
I think only in the face (and perhaps personality-wise) since Anne based her dragons off of her horses & the fire-lizards off of her cats.

but if you look at dragons in general throughout literature, they are more feline in personality than reptilian.

Also, look at the drawings in the current sets of D&D manuals (3rd edition)--the Monster Manual, Dracomanicon, etc. Their bearing of their legs (under the body) are more feline than reptilian (as opposed to sticking out from the sides of their bodies)
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Old Feb 7 2005, 05:17 PM   #45
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Perhaps, rather than feline, dragons can be described as dinosaurian....

Body shape, definitely, and maybe partly physiologically--warm-blooded, etc.
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Old Feb 7 2005, 06:08 PM   #46
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not pteranadon family though.
An extra set of limbs
and "strutted" wings-Pteranadon's have a single stretch

though a single stretch would get a bit impracticle for large sizes.


Don't ask how I know all this-I doodle dragons- NOT Anne-type MY own version when I'm bored and I've kinda tried to work out anatomical details!
so i looked at how Pteranadon wings worked.
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Old Feb 7 2005, 08:26 PM   #47
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Maybe the wings are more avian (and hence dinosaurian) than like the extinct flying reptiles--or even batlike....
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If you think about it, what are wings except arms that have grown membranes? Look at the joints, you'll see shoulders, elbows, fingers, even a thumb (on the outside). Most have 5 'fingers'. Dragon wings are batlike in composition.
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Old Feb 19 2005, 01:44 AM   #49
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Why should dragon dung be different from other dung? So I thought that it was obvious that baby brown would be the color of dragon dung.
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Old Feb 21 2005, 06:48 AM   #50
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Why should dragon dung be different from other dung? So I thought that it was obvious that baby brown would be the color of dragon dung.
because they - and Pern - have a different chemical make up to here.
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Old Feb 21 2005, 05:03 PM   #51
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Let's not forget the influence of that which had been et. Dogs eat bones, then their poo goes white, for example.
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i rem ember that they used dragon dung to ward off felines round Honshu and all the visiting dragons contributed!
as to colour i assumed it was normal dung colour!

Edith was right they used a dragondung, firestone mush to ward off the felines!
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I would say that, first, this poll is stupid. Second Dragons except in rare occastions eat red meat so there dung would be the same as any big carivore it would be black to dark brown speckled with white calcium spots depending on how much bone the dragon had comsummed. Ever seen your dogs dung after eating a lot of bone?
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They also eat white meat (wherries) and there would be a lot of calcium intake because they swallow the whole animal.
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Gilluin!

What do you mean that this poll is stupid? It's an important, unanswered question: what colour is dragon dung? We all need to know, and look at the need, judging from the traffic generated; it's an important topic!
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I have to agree with Gilliun this is sortta dumb I mean if we lived on Pern we wouldn't go around inspecting dragon dung and besides dragon dont excist altough I say the y probably did exsist during the midevil reniconces
?spelling? time ya know coming out of the dark ages on earth. Many peeps believe that but more dont. back on topic we are never never never never never going to know what color drgon dung really is so can we drop it plus just the thought of that is really really gross
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Old Mar 18 2005, 10:42 PM   #58
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Gilluin!

What do you mean that this poll is stupid? It's an important, unanswered question: what colour is dragon dung? We all need to know, and look at the need, judging from the traffic generated; it's an important topic!
Hear, hear!
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Old Mar 18 2005, 10:53 PM   #59
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wouldn't it simply be affected by what the dragon eats? Since they eat lots of red meat then it could be assumed that their dung would be quite dark brown.
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Old Mar 25 2005, 07:29 PM   #60
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I chose the same colour as Ghyle. He seemed all alone in his choice.

The only way to find out the true colour might be by travelling to Pern has a Dragon Dung Inspector.

Anyone up for the job?
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i'd do it, but can you imagine the stink coming off a pile of dragon dung? my DOG weighs 15 pounds and HIS poop reeks to high heaven...i can only imaging how awful dragon poop must smell!
better or worse then brewing numbweed?
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Remember in the movie Jurassic Park, when they were trying to figure out what made the Triceratops sick? Remember the great line...

"Now that... is one big pile of ****."
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Some questions are better left unanswered.
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Remember in the movie Jurassic Park, when they were trying to figure out what made the Triceratops sick? Remember the great line...

"Now that... is one big pile of ****."
My first thought when reading this thread.

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I have to agree with Gilliun this is sortta dumb I mean if we lived on Pern we wouldn't go around inspecting dragon dung
Depends on what you do for a living.. Those guys from the Jurassic Park movie probably never thought they would one day stick their hands in... well, you get the picture.
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No dragon dung they let fly while they are between.
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Yes, but they don't go between for over a year after they hatch!
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In the skies of Pern or dolphins of Pern? (I don't remember just now) Dragon dung is used to scare the great cats, after they attact F"lessan. Where dit that come from then?
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I know a zoo that sells lion poo to gardeners to keep the domestic cats off the flower beds.
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In the skies of Pern or dolphins of Pern? (I don't remember just now) Dragon dung is used to scare the great cats, after they attact F"lessan. Where dit that come from then?
It was in Skies of Pern.
I guess they could just ask the dragons to defecate on the land instead of between.
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Elephant dung is good for the compost heap too. It provided a good laugh after the last circus with elephants came to my area and I asked for some to put in my compost. How many can attest to that one as a story?
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Elephant dung is good for the compost heap too. It provided a good laugh after the last circus with elephants came to my area and I asked for some to put in my compost. How many can attest to that one as a story?
I recall seeing a show they used it after washing it to make paper.
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I am not the writer of the following site post, but it has a lot of good info. It also contradicts Kath's assertion of carbon vs boron base. I could swear I read that they are boron based as well. The Dragon Anatomy site I am adding also refers to all terran species being altered to be boron based...not sure how that is possible.
Okay. My take: dragons have a different make up than humans. They have ichor instead of blood, so one could assume that other internal fluids are different. This difference, bile specifically, would change the red or white meat as it passes through their system. Without knowing the color of those other fluids, you can't really know the color of fecal matter.
Something else to ponder...what if the dragon's body is able to completely absorb the nutrients of food. I know that their fecal matter and ash was used in Skies. Perhaps they ate more to produce the added feces. Perhaps the dragons apparent telekinesis continues beyond "thinking" about the second stomach for fire production.
I also believe the dragons may be more bat or birdlike in this situation...dragon guano?

Anyway, I will add my choice to the poll shorly. In the meantime, here is the link I mentioned above.
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It might be that they are very efficient and produce a very small amount of waste compared to what we would expect from a Terran animal.
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I am not the writer of the following site post, but it has a lot of good info. <snipped>
The Dragon Anatomy site I am adding also refers to all terran species being altered to be boron based...not sure how that is possible.
Kit Ping modified their digestive systems so they could digest Pern's boron-based vegetation.
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Isn't this a very crappy subject.
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As the frie lizards are native to Pern: why would Kitty Ping NEED to alter their digestive systems to cope with boron?

More likely she would need to modify their d-tracts to cope with imported silicon based grasses.
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I thought they altered the digestive systems of the cattle to accommodate the high boron content?
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I thought they altered the digestive systems of the cattle to accommodate the high boron content?
Right. "Terran species", as it said in the post I replied to.
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