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They are NOT religious. Religion as we know it today has pretty much vanished. This is mentioned in Dragonsdawn, there is some reference to it basically vanishing by the time the Nathi war was over... Darn it, I don't have a copy available... Quote:
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There is a desire after war for change. Not to go backwards, but to go in a new direction. For the Pern colonists, this meant developing technologies to let them spread out and to be able to live more healthily. We know they were not anti-science otherwise they would not have got top-rate scientists with them, especially as no one likes being treated as a second class citizen. Unless you were a very battered soul you would want to carry on with your work, albeit maybe in a totally different area. You talked about iphones and things. Giving up on stuff like that is relatively easy. Atavism of the mind is not. |
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As for all the talk of religion - aside from the references in Dragonsdawn, there is also Anne's hard and fast statement that there is no religion on Pern. As it's her world, she should know ![]() |
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Not the religion quote, but something interesting from the end of Chapter 1:
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I think the "they" he was referring to was Jehovah's Witnesses, as in, "I know JW's are religious, but look at them...."
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No, in the quote above the colonists are COMPARED to Jehovah's witnesses.
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Ah... I think I see where that is. Thanks.
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I honestly don't know how different things are between America and Britain, but I have (I'm not dissing Britain here, so nobody freak out) found hypocrisy to be a fairly universal human failing. Regarding buying tickets with somebody that burns the ships on arrival, that does pretty much suck if you haven't signed on with the second-coming of Cortez (of course, that's not such a good deal for any locals...). Mars is okay, but the view from Titan is fabulous! |
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To spread confusion?
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If not dissension ......
(Although I can't remember for the life of me what I'm trying to quote or reference .... "spreading dissension" ..... ![]() Later: Ok, I've remembered now. It's a line in a song in The Rocky Horror Show. Crisis averted LOL) Last edited by Gidget2; Jan 23 2008 at 07:41 AM. |
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And there I was thinking it was just provoking...
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Did someone ask for Emily Boll's quote on religion in Dragonsdawn?
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There's also a bit at the opening of Dragonsong, when Menolly is trying to figure out where Petiron went - he didn't go between, because he had left his body behind.
And in AtWoP, there's that song she writes: "Get up, take heart Go - make a start Sing out the truth you came for That when you die Your heart may fly To Halls we have no name for."
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I've always liked what F'lar or F'nor (I forgot) said as an exclamation: "By the void that spawned us"
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Given that there is no religion to provide a competing creation myth, I'd find it odd if they did forget that fact.
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I don't.
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The reason I do is that Pernese society remains fairly small and fairly static. Much of human history falls into the same category, yet we have plenty of myths and legends that we know to this day which originated 2500 years ago.
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Then why are they so surprised to find the shuttles at Landing?
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DOH!!!
I just remembered that all-important phrase! "When mankind first came to Pern, he settled in the South, but found it necessary to move North to shield." So they know that mankind came to Pern from somewhere else. But that was all that they remembered.
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That's the book intro Brenda, which isn't being told by any specific character. And I think it goes on to say that they forgot their origins...
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[teletubbyvoice]Oh oh[/teletubbyvoice]
I misunderstood Cheryl's remark and opened a Pern ebook to read the introduction... It happened to be Dragonquest and I read: Quote:
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The original "introduction" for Dragonsflight had it as "within a few generations" and that for Dragonsquest as "for two generations".
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I've noticed that discrepancy before as to the timing of the first fall. I'd have to say that it made sense to have it come sooner though -- on the original colonists who still had their full scientific training, and supplies/technology brought with still mostly in working order. If the first fall hit a could generations later, too much would have been lost, and certainly there'd have been no one that could engineer the dragons.
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I thought the quote was said by Robinton in one of the books, possibly white dragon.
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