Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' - A Meeting of Minds

Becky · Apr 11 2006, 02:57 AM

Does anyone know how may issues of the Crystal Singer fanzine were issued? They were done in more of a newsletter format in the 80's. I have volumes 1, 7, 8 and 9 and of course want to fill in, but I'd also like to now how many there are to collect.

Thanks!

**Cheryl** · Apr 11 2006, 07:55 AM

You know as much as I do! (Actually more, as I have none of them!)

***Hans*** · Apr 11 2006, 10:52 AM

Maybe our resident CS expert (staff member Pam) knows more? Unfortunately, Becky, she's off on a short holiday; well away from home anyway but I'm sure she will catch this thread when she gets back or when she has access to a computer.

Having said that, there seems to reside issues of the fanzine in question in the M. Horvat collection of SF fanzines in the library of the University of Iowa (box #11).

http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/spec-coll/M...atfanzines.htm

Maybe you can inform there what they have and/or know? An email is sent fast doesn't take much effort...

Good luck and do post if you find anything out!

Becky · Apr 11 2006, 11:56 PM

Hans,

Thanks for the link! Sent off an email right away.

I did see that Crystal Singer is listed there too. We'll see what I find out. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to post what I find out.

Becky · Apr 14 2006, 02:18 AM

I got a reply. They only have one fanzine in their collection and it's #14. So I now know that there are at least 14 issues.

And I have more issues than they do! he he he!!! They also sent me a link to another collection and I've emailed them about it too. I'll post about that when I hear from them also.

Lady Maelin · Apr 14 2006, 12:03 PM

Becky, what is in this fanzine ??? Stories about the Crystal Singers ???

ghyle · Apr 14 2006, 07:03 PM

Had a look through the list. They have a friend's fanzine, It Goes on the Shelf. Great fun to read, all potted reviews of quaint and curious lore, some of it skiffy. Give me a shout if you want to subscribe.

Mind you, we should be making our own fanzines, like the good little skiffy fans we are.

Spaceman Spiff · Apr 15 2006, 03:58 AM

And with several artists on the board, covers should be a snap!

***Hans*** · Apr 15 2006, 05:36 AM

Yeah, and the postage cost horrendous

Becky · Apr 15 2006, 11:48 AM

Well, the fanzine is just articles published by folks who enjoy Anne's books. It's not just Crystal Singer related, it's all her works. It was first issued in March of 1978. They did monthly mailings, but I don't know for how long. When I read thru it I think of it as very slow internet fan site!

There are articles on dragons and CS and all Anne's works. Some fan fiction too and lots of small bits of art and personal stories. Like I said an early version of a McCaffrey fan site.

Oh!!! A bit of news found in issue 3, May 1978!!!! (I have photo copies of issues 2-6 also, cuz a friend has the originals)
Anne was sent copies of the first 2 issues and the first issue deals with F'lar's age in one article.
She says "I.....have read through with interest, and a gulp for the inconsistancy of Flar's age. Todd Johnson, my son, tries to keep me right but occassionally I have goofed. Actually, F'lar is 10 Turns Lessa's senior and she is 24 when Ramoth and Mnementh mate. Todd keeps arguing that F'nor, having spent three Turns back in Southern Weyr , is subjectively now older than his half-brother but I keep saying it really doesn't matter...."

Just a neat tidbit that I thought would be of interest.

In the later issues there are letters from folks giving their opinion of the zine. There is also talk of orgainzing 'Central Weyr' or the purpose of discussion, round-robin letters and special projects, etc. They also talk about Cons they've been to and what happened at the con. There is also some big buildup to The White Dragon being published. Kind of neat to get their anticipation of that book coming out. Especially for me, since it was the very first Anne book I ever read!

Ok, that's it for now. I'll hopefully get some better info from this other school I've contacted about the number of issues that were done.

Lady Maelin · Apr 15 2006, 01:32 PM

This sounds so much like an art magazine that I use to get from the Colored Pencil Society, a long time ago. It was a black and white fold over, with articles and news all about that subject.

***Hans*** · Apr 15 2006, 01:45 PM

A BLACK & White magazine dealing with coulered pencils sounds funny

Lady Maelin · Apr 15 2006, 06:19 PM

It was tragic, as you could not see any of the beautiful drawing that had been submitted in color.

They changed it a few years latter, but at the time they had a very small budget, and not many artist at the time used colored pencils.

Now, everyone uses them, even children.

Becky · Apr 16 2006, 08:33 PM

Hans, I agree that does sound rather odd.

Maelin, I'm very glad they were able to change and put the art in color. Whew!

Lady Maelin · Apr 17 2006, 12:40 PM

At the time, they were a small group of artist, and had little money, before the age of the home computer.

Now it is a huge society, and have major contibutions. I dropped out years and years ago, but I still have four of the old copies of the fanzine(if that is what you call it).

Hey it just hit me, was that the start of my first collecting, and I didn't know it

Becky · Apr 17 2006, 11:25 PM

Maelin,

I'd say, YUP!!!!

Lady Maelin · Apr 18 2006, 01:24 PM

YEAH !!! (hugging them tightly)

Becky · Apr 19 2006, 01:23 AM

Not too tightly, you'll crumple them!!!!!

Lady Maelin · Apr 19 2006, 01:15 PM

OH no !!!,

(smoothing them nicely and placing them back in there folder. Smiling and waving at Becky,)

thank you for reminding me.

Becky · Apr 20 2006, 01:35 AM

Whew, that was close!!!

**Cheryl** · May 14 2019, 10:27 PM

While digging online for some other Crystal Singer information, I came across a great site that gives details on fanzines, and can say definitively that there were 14 issues. More details here: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Crystal_Singer

Apr 11 2006, 07:55 AM	#2
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' You know as much as I do! (Actually more, as I have none of them!) __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Apr 11 2006, 10:52 AM	#3
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Maybe our resident CS expert (staff member Pam) knows more? Unfortunately, Becky, she's off on a short holiday; well away from home anyway but I'm sure she will catch this thread when she gets back or when she has access to a computer. Having said that, there seems to reside issues of the fanzine in question in the M. Horvat collection of SF fanzines in the library of the University of Iowa (box #11). http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/spec-coll/M...atfanzines.htm Maybe you can inform there what they have and/or know? An email is sent fast doesn't take much effort... Good luck and do post if you find anything out! __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Apr 11 2006, 11:56 PM	#4
Becky Coelura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington Gender: F Fan of: Fav character - Lunzie Now Reading: Love reading Lanen's books too	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Hans, Thanks for the link! Sent off an email right away. I did see that Crystal Singer is listed there too. We'll see what I find out. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to post what I find out. __________________ Becky aka Coelura1

Apr 14 2006, 02:18 AM	#5
Becky Coelura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington Gender: F Fan of: Fav character - Lunzie Now Reading: Love reading Lanen's books too	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' I got a reply. They only have one fanzine in their collection and it's #14. So I now know that there are at least 14 issues. And I have more issues than they do! he he he!!! They also sent me a link to another collection and I've emailed them about it too. I'll post about that when I hear from them also. __________________ Becky aka Coelura1

Apr 14 2006, 12:03 PM	#6
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Becky, what is in this fanzine ??? Stories about the Crystal Singers ??? __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Apr 11 2006, 02:57 AM	#1
Becky Coelura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington Gender: F Fan of: Fav character - Lunzie Now Reading: Love reading Lanen's books too	Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Does anyone know how may issues of the Crystal Singer fanzine were issued? They were done in more of a newsletter format in the 80's. I have volumes 1, 7, 8 and 9 and of course want to fill in, but I'd also like to now how many there are to collect. Thanks! __________________ Becky aka Coelura1

Apr 14 2006, 07:03 PM	#7
ghyle Hrruban Eighth Hrruban Speaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: northeast New South Wales Gender: M Fan of: Pern & Freedom Now Reading: The Umbrella Club / David Brooks	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Had a look through the list. They have a friend's fanzine, It Goes on the Shelf. Great fun to read, all potted reviews of quaint and curious lore, some of it skiffy. Give me a shout if you want to subscribe. Mind you, we should be making our own fanzines, like the good little skiffy fans we are.

Apr 15 2006, 03:58 AM	#8
Spaceman Spiff Inactive Join Date: Mar 2005 Gender: M Fan of: PERN!!! Now Reading: Lord of the Rings	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' And with several artists on the board, covers should be a snap!

Apr 15 2006, 05:36 AM	#9
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Yeah, and the postage cost horrendous __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Apr 15 2006, 11:48 AM	#10
Becky Coelura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington Gender: F Fan of: Fav character - Lunzie Now Reading: Love reading Lanen's books too	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Well, the fanzine is just articles published by folks who enjoy Anne's books. It's not just Crystal Singer related, it's all her works. It was first issued in March of 1978. They did monthly mailings, but I don't know for how long. When I read thru it I think of it as very slow internet fan site! There are articles on dragons and CS and all Anne's works. Some fan fiction too and lots of small bits of art and personal stories. Like I said an early version of a McCaffrey fan site. Oh!!! A bit of news found in issue 3, May 1978!!!! (I have photo copies of issues 2-6 also, cuz a friend has the originals) Anne was sent copies of the first 2 issues and the first issue deals with F'lar's age in one article. She says "I.....have read through with interest, and a gulp for the inconsistancy of Flar's age. Todd Johnson, my son, tries to keep me right but occassionally I have goofed. Actually, F'lar is 10 Turns Lessa's senior and she is 24 when Ramoth and Mnementh mate. Todd keeps arguing that F'nor, having spent three Turns back in Southern Weyr , is subjectively now older than his half-brother but I keep saying it really doesn't matter...." Just a neat tidbit that I thought would be of interest. In the later issues there are letters from folks giving their opinion of the zine. There is also talk of orgainzing 'Central Weyr' or the purpose of discussion, round-robin letters and special projects, etc. They also talk about Cons they've been to and what happened at the con. There is also some big buildup to The White Dragon being published. Kind of neat to get their anticipation of that book coming out. Especially for me, since it was the very first Anne book I ever read! Ok, that's it for now. I'll hopefully get some better info from this other school I've contacted about the number of issues that were done. __________________ Becky aka Coelura1

Apr 15 2006, 01:32 PM	#11
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' This sounds so much like an art magazine that I use to get from the Colored Pencil Society, a long time ago. It was a black and white fold over, with articles and news all about that subject. __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Apr 15 2006, 01:45 PM	#12
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' A BLACK & White magazine dealing with coulered pencils sounds funny __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Apr 15 2006, 06:19 PM	#13
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' It was tragic, as you could not see any of the beautiful drawing that had been submitted in color. They changed it a few years latter, but at the time they had a very small budget, and not many artist at the time used colored pencils. Now, everyone uses them, even children. __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Apr 16 2006, 08:33 PM	#14
Becky Coelura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington Gender: F Fan of: Fav character - Lunzie Now Reading: Love reading Lanen's books too	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Hans, I agree that does sound rather odd. Maelin, I'm very glad they were able to change and put the art in color. Whew! __________________ Becky aka Coelura1

Apr 17 2006, 12:40 PM	#15
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' At the time, they were a small group of artist, and had little money, before the age of the home computer. Now it is a huge society, and have major contibutions. I dropped out years and years ago, but I still have four of the old copies of the fanzine(if that is what you call it). Hey it just hit me, was that the start of my first collecting, and I didn't know it __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Apr 17 2006, 11:25 PM	#16
Becky Coelura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington Gender: F Fan of: Fav character - Lunzie Now Reading: Love reading Lanen's books too	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Maelin, I'd say, YUP!!!! __________________ Becky aka Coelura1

Apr 18 2006, 01:24 PM	#17
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' YEAH !!! (hugging them tightly) __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Apr 19 2006, 01:23 AM	#18
Becky Coelura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington Gender: F Fan of: Fav character - Lunzie Now Reading: Love reading Lanen's books too	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Not too tightly, you'll crumple them!!!!! __________________ Becky aka Coelura1

Apr 19 2006, 01:15 PM	#19
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' OH no !!!, (smoothing them nicely and placing them back in there folder. Smiling and waving at Becky,) thank you for reminding me. __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Apr 20 2006, 01:35 AM	#20
Becky Coelura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington Gender: F Fan of: Fav character - Lunzie Now Reading: Love reading Lanen's books too	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Whew, that was close!!! __________________ Becky aka Coelura1

May 14 2019, 10:27 PM	#21
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' While digging online for some other Crystal Singer information, I came across a great site that gives details on fanzines, and can say definitively that there were 14 issues. More details here: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Crystal_Singer __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

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