AMCF is back (was AMCF site down.)

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by Tygress

The site's still a no show for me too

Likewise.........

[monkeysrule]

Ditto. I'm getting sick of this....

[TamTam]

Huh. I haven't been able to get onto the KT since... well, I can't quite remember. RL has been getting in the way. I thought it was just my computer being mean to me. I guess I should've known enough to check in here and catch up on the news.

[Hans]

The current troubles with AMCF are real life ones too, Tamtam

Welcome back!

[Hans]

Stranger and stranger, can't loging from Home but can from Work...

hope it ain't Windows versus Apple

[Platinum]

*Sidles in*
At the risk of looking like a whining baby...
*Whines*
Still down. 6 days and counting!

[c_ris]

*offers cheese to go with the whine*

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by c_ris

*offers cheese to go with the whine*

Red or white?
Not that I care, I'll drink meths if it's all ya got!

[c_ris]

I got both!

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by c_ris

I got both!

I'll be right round!

[leahiniowa]

Hans, I can also get on at work, and both my home and work computers are PCs. Must be the server/router.

[Greenrider Tresa]

Not loading for me either. ::sighs::

[Anneli]

Still no problem getting in, and I'm on Windows so I think from what people say that it's more geographical than which type of computer you have?

[Anneli]

Before noon?

*raises an eyebrow*

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

I'll be right round!

[chrysalis]

I asked my hubby and he says it doesn't matter where you live if your computer is trying to get through a particular router it won't work.

I'm going to try deleting my cache and see what happens!

[c_ris]

Originally Posted by Anneli

Before noon?

*raises an eyebrow*

And what's wrong with drinking before noon?

[Shani]

Because you have a higher chance to pass out before Happy Hour down at the pub that's what!
Can't be having that!

[c_ris]

Pubs open at 11... therefore drinking from eleven (at the latest) is fine!

[Aussie2]

So that's where "Elevensies" comes from.

[c_ris]

actually not... but it does work!

[chrysalis]

Originally Posted by chrysalis

I asked my hubby and he says it doesn't matter where you live if your computer is trying to get through a particular router it won't work.

I'm going to try deleting my cache and see what happens!

Didn't work.

[Tygress]

Originally Posted by chrysalis

Didn't work.

Whatever the problem is I wish someone would hurry up and fix it.

[murphy]

I can get on in the morning off and on and in the afternoons. I can't ever get on in the evenings.

[Hans]

Originally Posted by leahiniowa

Hans, I can also get on at work, and both my home and work computers are PCs. Must be the server/router.

Was kidding, leah, I think I know where the trouble lies and wish you good luck.

[Jax]

Originally Posted by Tygress

Whatever the problem is I wish someone would hurry up and fix it.

We're working on it, Tygress.

[granath]

If you still can't get in, try using the anonymizer site Bagpuss posted earlier in the thread.

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by granath

If you still can't get in, try using the anonymizer site Bagpuss posted earlier in the thread.

Erm........wasn't me and unless I'm being even more scatty than is my norm, there's no link anywhere in this thread to anonymizer, or any other anonymous surfer aid.
You been at the red again, Granath?!

*(edited to correct horrendous spelling)*

[Bagpuss]

I've "lifted" this from Pernese Friends, from a post by John.
He lists this place as having several places you can try to get to AMCF site from.
Just hit a link and type in the address, sometimes it works, sometimes not!

http://www.thefreecountry.com/security/anonymous.shtml

[Platinum]

Well, that didn't work!
If the ********** that should be fixing this ever see this...
CONGRATS you idiots, 7 days of frustration here, you have succeeded in putting me off even trying to go onto my fave site.
Well done you guys!



*Why is there never a :***********: smilie when we need one?*

[granath]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Erm........wasn't me and unless I'm being even more scatty than is my norm, there's no link anywhere in this thread to atonymizer, or any other anonymous surfer aid.
You been at the red again, Granath?!

Ooops, sorry. I'm one of the lucky ones who can get in there, I think John posted the link at the NKT as well. I'm not a member of PF so I sure couldn't see it there. I guess it's the remnants of my flu still addling my brain. Turned me into a real sievehead, temporarily I hope. *bites nails*

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by granath

I think John posted the link at the NKT as well.

Hm......posting a link at a site you can't get to, so you can get to it......now that makes a lot of sense!

Originally Posted by granath

my flu still addling my brain.

Hope you feel better, soon......I hate the flu!

[Lily]

Originally Posted by Platinum

Well, that didn't work!
If the ********** that should be fixing this ever see this...
CONGRATS you idiots, 7 days of frustration here, you have succeeded in putting me off even trying to go onto my fave site.
Well done you guys!



*Why is there never a :***********: smilie when we need one?*

Thank you Platinum.
Your support and encouragement to the techies trying to fix this problem for us all is appreciated

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by Platinum

Well, that didn't work!
If the ********** that should be fixing this ever see this...
CONGRATS you idiots, 7 days of frustration here, you have succeeded in putting me off even trying to go onto my fave site.
Well done you guys!
*Why is there never a :***********: smilie when we need one?*

Plat, I'm sure the admin and hosts are doing everything they can to get the place back up and running.
I know you're frustrated about not being able to chat and post, just take a minute to think how they feel!
As for the link I posted, I did state "sometimes it works, sometimes not!" I've tried it a few times, at the moment it's working for me, last night it didn't.
C'est la vie........but calling folks names ain't really nice, especially as I'm sure they're ten times more pissed at the situation than you are.

[leahiniowa]

Hans (bangs head) how stupid of me not to realize that you were kidding! Goes to show MY ignorance !!! Well, I never claimed to be a computer genius. Don't think you did either, but we all know you know a lot about computers, so there's a good chance you could be one and I'm just too ignorant to know it! (You have to know a certain amount before you can even begin to appreciate how much you don't know!)

Poor Plat, I know you're frustrated. It IS hard to wait, especially when you aren't one of the ones working on the thing. I wish there was a way you could at least get onto the site for an hour or two, just to catch up on some stuff. Well, I am very hopeful that this will be resolved soon.

[c_ris]

Originally Posted by Platinum

Well, that didn't work!
If the ********** that should be fixing this ever see this...
CONGRATS you idiots, 7 days of frustration here, you have succeeded in putting me off even trying to go onto my fave site.
Well done you guys!



*Why is there never a :***********: smilie when we need one?*

I am sure the AMCF hosts are doing everything they can to get the site back online. Sometimes, though, things just screw up. Especially technology.

[Platinum]

RIGHT, again I am explaining something that should be obvious.
Was it the HOSTS that moved us server without telling us? NO!
Was it the ********** at the server place? YES!

Did the Hosts cause this problem? NO
Are they unable to do anything really? YES


SO, my last post would therefore be LOGICALLY aimed at the dammned idiot server company.

Christs sake, really, I don't know why people are so bloody hypersensitive, I have said on NUMEROUS occasions that I wouldn't blame the Hosts so why the HELL am I jumped on like I am doing just that.

I really can't be bothered with this all, honest.



TO CLARIFY. I. AM. NOT. BLAMING. THE. HOSTS.

There, clear now?

[leahiniowa]

Plat, I know/knew you're not blaming the hosts. And I am gratified to see that we mean so much to you. I also share your frustration about not being able to touch base with many of my friends. At least I can spend some time today on the site (I'm working all day today, from about 8:30 am to about 8:30 pm.)

Yes, if we hosts were in control of everything and had magical powers, we'd have been back in business last week! (But the earth might be wobbling a bit more than usual on its axis!!!)

{{{{{{{{{{{Plat}}}}}}}}}}}}

But isn't it nice to have this place to come to as a refuge?

[Cheryl]

Originally Posted by Platinum

Was it the HOSTS that moved us server without telling us? NO!
Was it the ********** at the server place? YES!

Did the Hosts cause this problem? NO
Are they unable to do anything really? YES

Plat - I could tell you were made at their webhost and not the AMCF techs, but that's only clear to those that figured out your assumption that there is nothing the AMCF techs can or should be doing to help resolve the situation. Further, you are clearly assuming that the webhost moved the site for absolutely no reason other than to be *****, and that there aren't any steps that AMCF needs to be taking before the webhost will get them back on a proper server.


I know more about what's going on because I've been providing advice and researching the issue for AMCF. I don't think the AMCF hosts have been deliberately trying to keep people in the dark, but the few that have the technical understanding and could make a reasonable public statement about the issue are too busy working on fixing it. So, because I do have the technical understanding and am not busy on fixing it, I'm going to explain the bare bones of it (and hopefully not annoy the AMCF hosts in the process for usurping their prerogative):

1) Something went screwy with the board causing it to use a lot of server resources (i.e. processor power), so much in fact that it put the server at risk of crashing.
2) Their webhost removed their site from that server, because not only were they at risk of crashing, so was every other site hosted on that server which isn't fair to them.
3) The issue that caused the board to suck up processor power needs to be resolved to the webhost's satisfaction before they will be moved back to a standard production server. That issue needs to be resolved by AMCF, with the help of vBulletin. It's not the webhost's problem to figure out why their client's website isn't working properly (at least not with the particular hosting plan they're paying for).

There are of course more details than that, but they're definitely not my place to decide to share. The above I actually could have figured out without inside knowledge, based on a page about "exceeded resource limit" which has popped up when I first couldn't get to AMCF, which can then be researched on their webhost's support forums.

I suspect it doesn't help AMCF to resolve the issue to have everyone keep desperately trying to reach the site, because I think the server they've been moved to can only support a certain number of people accessing the site at a time. If AMCF techs can't access the site reliably because of everyone else trying to get there, they can't bloody well get on with fixing it. But that's just a guess on my part, I don't have hard facts to support it.

[Attraio]

Originally Posted by c_ris

*offers cheese to go with the whine*

*slaps Crispy silly(er)*

You wouldn't say that if you were the one barred from the KT for 7 straight days!

[Hans]

Well, that wasn't so hard now was it, thought a little silly that it is Cheryl (thank you dear) to be the one to explain things (despite her being a valuable advisor to AMCF).

Though I want AMCF to go back to a properly working website and BB just like any other I must say that the lack of constructive remarks towards the members on AMCF by the AMCF team, here or on any other site at their disposal did amaze me and wasn't making a good impression (I think I should even have to say I think Bobbsy was in part right with his post in the relative thread over at AMCF).

I'm sorry, AMCF hosts, but I honestly think (and I think that I can say it because I have the experience to back up my opinion) that this is another hosting/PR "learning moment" for you. There would have been no shame in telling this story a few days ago and then the indignation would not have been directed at you directly but where it should be directed: at a misfortunate coincidence (and the whole indignity of yet another shouting match-thread with dear John would hopefully not have taken place).

I wish you goodluck in solving the problem!