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Old Aug 8 2010, 02:02 AM   #401
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Okay, Jube, I didn't really know you guys when I started writing this one but Annie named Captain Vesey, and I think Kibble was kibble because of kitty kibble. I named Jubal and really, the name came to my attention because it's sort of a traditional name for bloodhounds in the south but I thought it made a fine unusual name for a country boy on a backwater agricultural planet. Annie also named Jared and Janina. I was glad she named Janina what she did because my vet, upon who I modeled Jared in my mind (though he was older and heavier and much funnier in person) died last Sunday at 52 of a massive heart attack. He was a wonderful vet and I always felt safe for the cats while he was here. But his wife, who is also wonderful and a wildlife rescuer, is named Jeanette (sort of like Janina). My part of the book was partly dedicated to them as several previous have been and I kind of think Jeanette might have identified with Janina a little, at least the romantic part. She and Tony were a very close couple and both were wildlife rescuers before and after he got his DVM. I went to his smaller memorial ceremony yesterday. Next week they will have the big one in the biggest hall in Port Townsend, the old balloon hanger that's now a concert auditorium. Everyone loved him.
The new covers do not have long haired kitties on them, to my disappointment. The paperback cover for Catalyst doesn't have that lovely fuzzy fellow from the hardback--instead both have a black silhouette of a sleek haired cat., I suppose it could be Pshaw-Ra but since the books are called Tales of the Barque Cats it seems Unfair to Fuzzy Kitties. In my mind, what happens in Catacombs eventually produces a true Barque Cat breed that, by the time of Anne's Tower and Hive series, looks like the lovely exotic felines on Rowena's beautiful covers of those books.
I saw the reviews and many were quite good, which made me glad, though one lady did say she was disappointed it wasn't a Tower and Hive book--well, we had no chance to personally explain to everyone as we did to you that this was in the very early days of the breed and everything eventually changed into being what it became by the time of the Rowan series. Even the place might have changed as further space exploration ensued.
And honestly, reviews are always mixed. Even those for Anne's brilliant solo Pern books have been mixed to downright insulting sometimes. They say that for reviews what you have to hope is that they spell your name right. I do the best I can, tell the story as it comes to me and hope people like it. You have to remember too that those online reviews are sometimes written by people who try to make themselves sound clever dissing other peoples' creative work, perhaps because they haven't succeeded with their own or just to get their 15 minutes of fame. Some of them have clearly not read the book. Some people want you to tell the story they were expecting not the story you have to tell.
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Old Aug 8 2010, 03:50 AM   #402
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Fair enough. It just seem to pop out that some characters' names seem similiar to our avatar names and I figured I'd ask. If one doesn't ask, how is one suppose to get an answer? One of those things I picked up on but others hadn't or maybe they did in an earlier part of this thread and I've missed reading it *shrugs shoulders*. Purely rhetorical! I guess after reading a conversation between Jubal and the captain's daughter where she says "Jube" which caught my attention and made me think of it.
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I think Annie might have picked up on P'ter's name at least subliminally when she named Captain Vesey. If you want to think Jubal was named for you, go right ahead! Maybe it was a case of precognition on my part which is entirely appropriate for this kind of book.
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Edith, are you still having problems getting hold of Catalyst? I just checked on amazon in the UK: they have hardback in stock and you can pre-order the paperback and pre-order Catacombs. If the worst comes to the worst I could order it for you and forward it to the Netherlands. Or perhaps Hans knows a good supplier there? Best of luck.

By the way, I noticed they have changed the cover art for the forthcoming books. I wonder why.

Catalyst hardback

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I'm 'Hung Up' at the moment. My financial situation is making it difficult to finish paying off the copy I have on hold. I've paid half of it off, and the Bookstore has kindly given me an extension till the end of next month to get the money together for the other half. All being well, I'll have it in my hands by the end of September.
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Old Aug 9 2010, 01:36 AM   #406
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I am so sorry it's so terribly expensive for you. Thank you for persevering nonetheless.
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I'm 'Hung Up' at the moment. My financial situation is making it difficult to finish paying off the copy I have on hold. I've paid half of it off, and the Bookstore has kindly given me an extension till the end of next month to get the money together for the other half. All being well, I'll have it in my hands by the end of September.
Good luck Kugai, if I could help you out, I would have done so. Keep plodding along and you'll get there. It is worth waiting for. Trust me.
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Anne may not have picked on me directly: there was a fairly important family in Ireland called Fitzgerald-Vesey who lived in a very grand house called Abbey Leix, in County Laois. Anne might have known about the place since it includes a stud farm.

The main family appears to have died out in a couple of daughters in Dublin. Since they were fond of opera, I wondered whether they were the originals for the Ladies Brandell.
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Entirely possible. It makes a better story for our purposes if you were the inspurration though.
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I'm more than happy to stand as Captain Vesey (although the only craft I've captained, so far, have been water types).
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Well, space types are based on water types and you did, at least, have a ship's cat--at least in your story.
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I'm just real glad it didn't turn out like the cat in 'Red Dwarf'!
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But that was a cool Cat!
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Way out cool, deep in the left field. I still wouldn't want him paddling me with his claws!
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The new covers do not have long haired kitties on them, to my disappointment. The paperback cover for Catalyst doesn't have that lovely fuzzy fellow from the hardback--instead both have a black silhouette of a sleek haired cat., I suppose it could be Pshaw-Ra but since the books are called Tales of the Barque Cats it seems Unfair to Fuzzy Kitties. In my mind, what happens in Catacombs eventually produces a true Barque Cat breed that, by the time of Anne's Tower and Hive series, looks like the lovely exotic felines on Rowena's beautiful covers of those books.
I protest on behalf of fuzzy cats everywhere! What must it be like not to sleep on a bed made soft, homely and comfortable by a layer of your own fur?
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I, Pancho the fuzzy agree with mew, Zorro. I think it is a travesty.
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Cat from Red Dwarf and I both like Shiny Things, P'ter.
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So do I: round shiney things with £2 written on one side!
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Those are nice too.
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but they don't skitter when you bat them!

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Mew have to get a claw under the shiny thing and flip it, THEN it skitters and clinks too! Cisco and Pancho
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They 'go' well when playing shove-halfpenny.
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That does not sound like a cat game to us. We play "shove Pancho" or "shove Cisco" depending on who's talking.
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Oh it is! Hit shiney with paw: chase shiney down the board. Board land up on floor with all shineys rolling under chair and things. Very amewzing!
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Ooooooh, we need a board to dump! We knew there was something missing!
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Of course you need a board. Anything less is a load of attle, which is apropriate seeing as how you habitate near the sea.
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Ummmmmm--yeah, but we're cats. What's anattle? Cisco and Pancho
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Worthless mining rubbish
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Oh--like stone that doesn't have ore in it?
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Otherwise known as tailings I believe.

I wonder whether Orc was originally a missreading or Ore?
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Or maybe the word "orc" comes from someone who was really afraid of killer whales, even on land?
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Unfortunately it appears to be either from Latin orcus (= hell) or Italian orca (= monster).

Isn't real life boring?
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A little bit Orcward too

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Could be a fight over timber too ...









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I like cats better than orcs, I'm pretty sure.
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Me too! And prefer dolphins to orcas... lol
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They're all pretty cool except orcs.
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Eann: were you pulling an all nighter? Or just been out to a boozy party?
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I always pull all nighters. I am an all night sort of person. Not much of a boozy party person. Dude, the booze interferes with my drug habits--the ones the doctor prescribes?
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Sounds like me: I'm on five lots.
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