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Old Dec 6 2004, 07:12 PM   #1
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I just saw on TV that a lab is experimenting with a system in which a paralyzed person can operate a computer via brainwaves. The subject wears what looks like a swim cap with thingys all over it and learns to use brain waves to perform tasks on a computer. Can a brainship be that far off?
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Old Dec 6 2004, 09:04 PM   #2
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It will take them decades to get this to a workable pooint, and longer to get it to an AFFORDABLE point. I think the first real "shellpeople" are likely to be lab workers.
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That's so cool! Certainly the first step on the road to something like shell people, though I do find it hard to imagine we'd ever get to the point of encasing someone in a titanium shell.
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Old Dec 6 2004, 11:05 PM   #4
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There is an old Sci-Fi saying that today's science fiction is tomorrows fact.
Look at how much Sci-Fi has come around... Kirk's communicatior would look bulky next to my cell phone Bio-beds are a fact... its all coming. Brain ships are possilbe.
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I really should dive into the Scientific American archives again. They had a story about a year or so ago (it may have been longer) about giving people working vision using electrodes implanted into the cerebral cortex. Apparently an array of 100*100 microelectrodes was enough to give workable monochrome vision to volunteers whose visual cortex was used to dealing with visual information, i.e. sighted people. I really have to find that article!
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there was a person on a program on tv last year that had a mechanical hand not attached that he could control using nerves in his arm.
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Old Feb 24 2005, 01:04 PM   #7
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the thought is incredibly encouraging that the sciences are catching up [slowly] with science fiction! i hope that one day the cerebral or neurological diseases can be turned around, and those who suffer and are limited now, will be given that wonderful freedom. wow, such a movement towards real shell people is wonderfully encouraging!

*thinks of people such as Prof. Stephen J. Hawking, and cheers with excitement*

i wonder where he might go and what adventures he might do as a shellperson?
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Old Feb 25 2005, 06:50 AM   #8
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Look how much he's already done!!!
you have to admire people like that!
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I have a problem with the nerves in my neck which means my hands and arms are becoming useless....Oh I would love to think that there would be help for me in the future!!!
I don't think it will come soon enough for me but if I hear of any new research, I always email brief medical reports and offer myself to be a guinea-pig!
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good for you!
remember the rate we're developing things there's still a chance.
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It shouldn't take that long to develope a system like that, and it doesn't matter what the cost is cause if you remember, the brain ships spent years working to pay off their depts, so it was expensive for them as well, but they much prefered paying the cost then living a life paralised!
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but things are so much cheaper now than a few years ago.
look at the PC...
Colossus was enormous in size but could be beaten by most if not all modern computers,
the old BBC computers-great fun when I was in Primary school are obsolete, which is a pity cos they had some great educational games, (Look and Read, and a Castle building one I used in yr 7)
and my laptop (under 5 yrs old) is too slow to run some programs now.

chips are getting smaller everyday, and we're getting closer to combining electrical and optical circuits, you can put a semiconductor laser in your pocket. New materials are lighter and more durable. The idea of prosphetics is closer really than successful artificial fusion-and no bubble fusion please!

Hey! next thing we know there'll be a Horizon programme of this! full of flaws as usual! claiming that someone's got the plans for a working hand!
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on this train of thought; i found this link:

http://www.thetech.org/robotics/universal/index.html

Seems that we are indeed making huge strides. And i've seen this robot guy on tv as well, and the advertisement it was in, suggested they would be put to use in the future as an alternative for those with little mobility. Now whether they had in mind encasing a human within, or just having it go do the physical things the impaired can't, i dont know. But i thought it was one of the most encouraging developements i've seen lately. And on this site they also pose interesting thoughts about robots and the human ethics involved.
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I found this topic to be a fascinating read!l

My chair is titanium, and (to me, at least) it is poetry in motion; freedom on 4 wheels! Every time I misjudge or otherwise screw up and run into a wall or something, I kind of wish that it were controlled by thought. But then again, it is! Hey, a girl can dream. . . :-)

I think that real-life science is actually really close to the brainship idea. Space ships are still a ways off, but have no fear, we'll get there. I was watching a documentary the other evening about cybernetics research and how people are using it to build prodthetic limbs for those who have lost one, that are controlled by thought, just like a real limb would be.

I've also heard of cars that can be controlled by thought, although I think that's still just a concept. One thing that's actually real is cars, wheelchairs, light switches, doors, etc., that are voice-controlled. One wonders though: can a voice-controlled car actually just be told how to parellel park? Is it possible to yak your way on the freeway, w/o being pulled over for distracted driving? Hmmmm. . .
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I think I rember that one on Scientific American Fonter on PBS here in US, in fact I think I have it on tape. They have worked out a way to use GPS as a moblity aide www.sendrogroup.com Right now they are have a "Where in the Word is Mike" That would be CEO Mike May, of the group.
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