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We've looked at Anne's best books, but what about her worst? What titles prompt us to ask what she's been smoking? What makes us want to give up, and leave the book aside?
Or do we like everything, with no worst, only a best?
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renegades. uhhg
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Renegades. Disordered, unappealing heros, idiotically cartoonish villain, and a last third that has almost squat to do with the first 2/3s.
Masterharper of Pern. Throws everything written about that time frame out the window with no concessions to logic, writing backstory that does not track with the character as written before, and a near-fan-ficcish need to shove a character into every important event previously mentioned. |
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I love Renegades as does Hans - but that's the archivists in both of us enjoying all the details provided in the book.
My least favorites would have to be the Acorna series - which is just too juvenile in plot and character (and it didn't have to be just because it's written as a juvie series - look at the Harper Hall novels by contrast!) - and the two Dinosaur Planet books, because of the ridiculousness of Varien and Kai as "scientists" qualified to lead a planetary exploration mission.
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Renegades and MHoP for the reasons Anareth mentioned.
I never got past the first Acorna book, possibly because I don't like Margaret Ball's writing at all; PartnerShip is my least fave BB book too.
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I too don't care for Margaret Ball's writing. PartnerShip shares much in common with the early Acorna books, in terms of one-dimensional characters and fairly cliche plot. I got through book 5 I think, and things don't improve once EA Scarborough took over for Ball.
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If there's a book that she has written that is not at all good, I have yet to read it.
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Honestly, I like PartnerShip, both because it stays closer to TSWSang in the dripping sop department (ie not much) and has some interesting moral issues, plus it was the first Ship book I read. It's one of the few books in which Anne has had a hand in which the villains aren't simplistically bad and the heros aren't self-righteously good. (To me, SwSearched suffers from Anne and Misty Lackey each reinforcing the other's worst tendencies towards sop. City Who Fought is good but not for Anne's typical readers, as Stirling's a bit grittier, if entertaining. The ones with and by Jody-Lyn Nye are just lacking something, I can't quite say what.)
Never read Acorna, didn't make it very far into the Freedom series, never made it past the short-story versions of Talent, never read Pegasus, read Crystal Singer but didn't make it more than halfway into Kilashandra...am I missing any series? I think Pern and the Brainships are the only ones where I made an effort to keep reading them. |
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I liked Acorna especially for its young appearance. makes me feel like a twelve year old again. Riding my bike out to the middle of nowhere so that I could read without distraction. I love reliving days of innocense.
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Worst of them all? Well, I've only read the Pern books, and since DBlood wasn't written by Anne, it would have to be Renegades. Not that I didn't enjoy the end, but it could have been two seperate books and I didn't like the whole Jayge/Aramina vs. Thella thing, since the chatacters were not done well at all IMO.
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hmmmm does our dearest Ghyle have a record??
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I'm not too fond of the last Crystal Singer book.
I've only read most of the Pern books, the Crystal Singer books and Nimisha's Ship.
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I've never read Acorna or Nimishi. I only got part way into Sassinak and Powers That Be. I don't think I'd say they were bad books, just not my cup of tea, at least at the time I picked them up.
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Like a few others, I also couldn't get through the first Acorna book. I didn't like the most recent Freedom book - a lot of what is in it makes the book seem like a place holder. The book itself didn't seem to go anywhere and it left me wondering about whether it was written just to introduce the next book.
In the Pern series there was much in AtWoP that was too openended for me. Anne does not usually write "cliffhanger" type books - but this one seemed a lot like one with so many questions left unanswered. While Renegades did have parts I could have done without - I did like the background details given about many of the characters - especially the Piemer parts. ![]() |
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MHoP was okay. Renegades is one of her worst, but i can not hate it because it was also one of the first Pern books that I read. Sorry
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In Anne's more recent writing there have been quite a few cliffhanger books. Skies of Pern, Freedom's Ransom and The Tower and the Hive all left me with that inconclusive feeling you get from a placeholder.
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I didn't think Renegades was all that bad. I thought it was good.
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You know, I've not even been able to make myself start reading the last Acorna book. And gave up on Restoree, but then I'm not that big of a romantic.
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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While I enjoy all of Anne's books the ones that I least enjoy are the Doona series. I really liked Decision at Doona and Crisis on Doona wasn't too bad, but Treaty Planet is just too hard for me to get thru. Too much politics for me, I think. I like the Grring, tho.
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Never been able to get into the Acorna Series, I find it too juvinile for my tastes. Liked RoP and MHoP, found them interesting reads. 'Restoree' I reread occasionally, but I'm not really into the Romances. Like most of you, I find the final 'Freedom' book leaves me hanging, seems like there should be more!
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I haven't been able to finish the third Doona book, I get about two chapters in and then have to stop. I also had to put down Changelings, but I'll give it another try later.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Washington, the state not the district
Fan of: Freedom's, Doona, Petaybe
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Year of the lucy I could not stomach but finished. I am about to start Acorna through second wave. It may be juvenile but at least its not romance with weak heros and horses.
I have read all of these series: PTB including Maelstorm.(waiting for the last) Doona Romances Freedoms Pern including dragonsblood Pegasus Rowan Planet pirates Body heir Crystal singer I only have Acorna series, B&B series, space opera and black horses for the king to read to have read them all. so far year of the Lucy was the only one I didn't like. |
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So far I've liked all the pern books...none of the others appealed to me long enough to remember much about them. I'm pretty sure the ship series is my least favorite as I don't remember a thing about it other than the plots being childish and sub-par.
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MasterHarper of Pern for the inconsistencies.
For the rest - the PTB series gets my vote. "Powers that be" got chucked against the wall several times. I borrowed the second in the series from a friend and concluded that it was getting worse, not better (a typical theme for non-Pern McCaffrey series) - at that point I bailed out with no regrets. |
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After reading through this I feel I need to post a correction. A couple of months ago I tackled Powers That Be again. I got all the way through and found I actually enjoyed it. Still wouldn't call it a favorite but not the worst either!
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MHoP- I barely got through it.
Acorna- didn't get through it. I loved Renegades! I also loved the Dino Planets! |
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I loved all the ones i have read. The freedom never appealed to me, but I started it and liked it so much I read them all in one sitting. I still have yet to read the romances tho.
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Well, I'm glad I'm not alone. I couldn't finish the Acorna or Freedom series. I got through the first books and then somewhere along the way got totally lost. I actually kinda like the PTB ones ok, but haven't finished them yet.
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Maybe it's just me, maybe it's because I'm a musician, but I really liked MHOP. I guess I didn't really see the inconsistencies, or else I was used to them in other books and expected them? Not sure, I thought I was a better Pern scholar than that. The only part I just can't "get" is the whole honeymoon trip from h*ll. It just doesn't seem to flow at all, although maybe it was meant to be that way to go along with what happened.
My least favorite are the Doona books, I just couldn't get into them at all.
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I loved MHOP, I could not get thru Acorna and never even tried book 2 or 3. Power To Be was ok as well as Freedom. Of course Pern is top of the list the the brain ships & cities. Its fun to go out shopping and while you take a brake and rest, watch the people and picture them as either dragon rider, lord holder or what ever. Make the whole trip interesting.
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I think I am like McClance...I never read a McCaffrey book that I didn't like. I have read a few that I didn't like as well as others...but even those are a lot better than most every other writer's books that I have read before.
I also loved Renagades, and Masterharper of Pern...I don't mind the inconsistances...Ijust enjoy the story..every story!!!
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True enough, Lady Maelin! Actually, too true. I have more Acorna books on my shelf, for instance, waiting for me to finish. And I will probably finish Freedom one day as well. I have nothing at all to pick about dramatically, when it comes to the McCaffrey household. I couldn't even pick my favorite out of them all!
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Skies was my least-fav Pern book. Everything fell together entirely too conveniently for me. I only read the first of the Petaybee series, and didn't finish Acorna, so I guess those would also be my least-favorites.
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I too really liked Renegades. I enjoyed the fact that Anne put much more detail into the book than she had in some of her previous books. I liked Master Harper as well. Maybe not as much as some of the others but: "I ain't throwin it away either!" I can't say anything good, or bad for that matter about any of her other titles. I never really had any interest in anything other than the Pern books.
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I think I would say that All the Weyrs and Dolphins I liked the least, and I found Tower and the Hive left me somewhat disappointed but I've always managed to read through. Just not my favs I guess
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I LOVE that book...I must re-read it at least 2-3 times a year.
The only series I can't "take to" is the PTB lot. Not even bought past the first 3. ![]()
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I just finished reading Changelings and if that's any measure for the rest... no, thanks.
Annie Scarborough would do better to start something new instead of keep on embroidering on the already existing pattern (as we Dutch say).
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