Brains on TV! - A Meeting of Minds

Gidget2 · Aug 13 2007, 01:28 PM

I was sat around wondering the other day (as you do), and a thought struck me. There has been talk for some years about making DRoP into some kind of TV series or movie or cartoon or somesuch, but what with their being a large market out there for the harder sci-fi that is set in space (well, I'm no publisher or media type but I am presuming so!) how about the BB series of books being made into something visual?

Who would you want to see being made over in this way? The adventures of Helva as she sings around the galaxy? Alex and Tia as they track down the EsKay homeworld? Carialle as she and Keff scoot around trying to find more beasties? Perhaps Nancia as she tries to balance her morals against a very amoral universe? Or Simeon's life story?

I'm not actually sure who I would vote for, to be honest! I think that Helva's is a very 'tellable' story and it does break up nicely into sections. But then the EsKay search could be a pretty good series too.

So what do all of you Brain-lovers think????

***Hans*** · Aug 13 2007, 03:29 PM

Hypathia without a doubt; I think hers is the best story to be made into a movie/TV show!

Greenrider Tresa · Aug 13 2007, 04:18 PM

Tia, if only because she's my favorite..

**Cheryl** · Aug 13 2007, 04:42 PM

I've long thought that the Brainships would make a great TV show. Though rather than try to turn a specific book into a show, I think they could create a new character. That way they're not tied to a plot that might not translate perfectly onto the screen -- and won't upset fans by changing it. Some of the 'real' brainships could have cameos from time to time.

granath · Aug 14 2007, 04:27 AM

I like Cheryl's idea. But if they do decide to use one of Anne's characters, I'd suggest Tia. Mainly because as we know her as a mobile human child, she'll be that much easier to relate to as a character for most people. Otherwise the temptation to insert a human face on one viewscreen so that the brawn has a human to interact with would be all too tempting, and that would change Anne's concept a bit too much for my taste. With Hypatia, we also get the MotoProsthetic body near the end, making the character even more human.

Gidget2 · Aug 14 2007, 09:16 AM

Mmm. I hadn't considered the angle that Cheryl suggested! It would make a lot of sense!

And Granath is right too - a face on a viewscreen would rather defeat the purpose of the entire Brain-Brawn dynamic. Brawn's are trained to accept that the entire ship (or City or Station) is one extension of that being - although some Brains project an image in certain cases, it would not appear to be the norm.

It's quite interesting that Tia is (so far) the favourite. Is it, as Granath touch upon, the fact that there is more of a human aspect to her? We get to see her personality as a human child, the effects of her illness and how it effects her life as a shellperson. All the others we see purely as the entity of Brain. It is only Tia who has that 'extra' part.

**Cheryl** · Aug 14 2007, 10:42 AM

Brawns may be trained to accept it, and as readers we're used to the idea (and anyway you can't see a face when you read). However I would suspect that if it ever was developed for tv, that they would do a face on a viewscreen to help the audience relate.

And I don't honestly think that detracts too much from it, less so that than the idea of the full moto-body that Tia gets.

Gidget2 · Aug 14 2007, 01:18 PM

For those of you have ever watched the UK comedy 'Red Dwarf', the image of Holly rather springs to mind (and probably quite unfairly) as to one avenue 'they' could explore.

For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, suffice it to say that Holly was the ship's computer who was a disembodied head on a TV screen. It was made in the 90s and the effects for Holly were not that good, and it really was a small TV screen.

Do you think Tia wanted the body so much because she'd already had one?

granath · Aug 14 2007, 03:47 PM

I think so. She knew what it felt like to have a body, and I suspect they couldn't condition her as much as they conditioned babies shelled at a few months of age. After all, Tia still needs to sleep for three hours a day, unlike Helva or any other brainship we hear about. I wonder if Moira needs to sleep as well...

Lady Maelin · Aug 14 2007, 07:46 PM

Naturally I would love to see *Helva* come to the screen...just as Anne wrote it. But for the T.V. small screen I can see Cheryl's idea been a very realistic one that actually could be made into a fantastic series...and very contemporary with the very intelligent ship that has all this personality and the brawns that keep changing from time to time as do the passengers.
I do see the real benifit to doing Tia also..her robotic body would add reall intrest to different episodes where she could leave her ship for short periods of time...WOW this is all so interesting now I want to see some outfit really make it!!!

P.S. Thank you Gidget for thinking up this one...this really will give me some lovely daydreams to think on...and a T.V. show/movie to hope for...someday!!!

Gidget2 · Aug 15 2007, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Maelin

Thank you Gidget for thinking up this one...this really will give me some lovely daydreams to think on...and a T.V. show/movie to hope for...someday!!!

LOL Thanks Lady M! Always glad to help

I've been thinking more about Cheryl's idea and the more I think on it, the more it makes very good sense. I'm sure that it would also avoid some kind of copyright issues!!!

*sigh* Yeah, it would be cool to think that one day, sandwiched between the endless reruns of Everybody Loves Raymond and Star Trek: Enterprise there could be a show about Brains.

**Cheryl** · Aug 15 2007, 09:24 AM

It doesn't avoid copyright issues, anyone developing such a show would still have to buy the rights to the books. But it avoids annoying fans by not living up to their expectations of how a book should translate to tv.

Kath · Aug 15 2007, 02:06 PM

Tia, for the reasons mentioned above. And I reckon it'd make a great episodic mini-series.

Kugai · Sep 1 2007, 10:50 PM

As much as I would like to see Helva's tale brought to the screen , I think Tia's tale would most likely make a better story to start out with. Undoubtedly, if her tale were to prove sucessful enough, it could probably lead to the others being adapted.

granath · Sep 2 2007, 12:46 PM

Although to be frank, there are some glaring continuity issues in SSearched as well, such as when conversations are recorded in the cabin and when they aren't. Tia wasn't worrying about recordings when Alex blackmailed her (unintentionally, but nevertheless) into taking him as her brawn, but certainly later. And I wondered last time I read when they were on the treasure cache planet how Alex dared to get out of his suit while they were still under the snow. That's when they discovered the things about the EsKay maps, and he walked in stockinged feet, etc. He should've stayed in the suit, preferably until it could be purged in space.

edith · Sep 5 2007, 04:39 AM

I always thought that they'd be better on radio...

I mean, even with CGI you'd have problems with Fred.

Topaz the Golden · Sep 7 2007, 11:51 PM

you sould have added all of the above I can't pick I would love to see them all

Nina · Sep 26 2007, 06:38 PM

I would choose Simeon the City - I already saw the film when reading.

Maybe I have a good imagination

Gidget2 · Sep 27 2007, 04:51 AM

LOL Nina - no, I quite agree that the visuals there would be quite stunning, especially if they were to include a chunk of the Kolnari back-story.

**Cheryl** · Sep 27 2007, 07:51 AM

Well, at EuroCon Anne herself said that she's always thought Helva would translate well to tv, but that a project never got off the ground for it.

jube · Nov 17 2008, 08:03 PM

You would still have the human aspect of Helva (well besides the obvious statements of Tia). After all, the start of the series would be from when Helva's mother gave birth to her and finding out about Helva's physical disabilities. The decision of putting her into a shell etc would be an "endearing" point of view as most parents would relate to the "what if's", especially those who have children with disabilities (both physical and mental/learning e.g. dyslexia, aspergers, AHDH). It would reek of the humane-ness of what people go through to find themselves in that situation.

But then what's considered "normal"? A person who is physically able, would consider themselves normal, in much the same way that a person with disabilities would consider themselves normal. It's how we look at it and compare. Consider how it's written in the books, that "shelled" people consider "soft-shells" as being too soft (pardon the pun here) and vice versa - shells as being a hard-core tin-plated @#%^. MM and SPRIM getting a workout for sure.

Greenrider Tresa · Nov 18 2008, 01:17 AM

Excellently stated, Jube.

I think normal is more of an individual state than some blanket term that applies the same way to everyone. If that makes sense...

Brenda · Nov 18 2008, 06:21 PM

I voted for Tia, because she's the one I get the most emotionally involved with. The runners-up for me are Carialle and Simeon, although both would be compared to Star Trek - Carialle with TOS and TNG, and Simeon with DS9 - that one basically had the same plot at one point, just with less raping and pillaging.

Pernaficionado · Nov 19 2008, 02:25 PM

I voted on Helva, but i was thinking more in terms of tv series and less in terms of a movie. Helva's plot breaks up into so many little stories that I think it would adapt well to the structured format of a series. I was a little concerned about the corviki translation though.

Sandi · Nov 19 2008, 08:06 PM

I like Cheryl's idea of a fresh start with a new Brain (or several!). I do see how Helva's story would translate easily and Tia's character would be more empathetic (for some). And, like Nina, I "see a movie" every time I read City Who Fought. I wouldn't have a problem with a "face on a screen" situation. Simeon used one and so did Tia (snarling dog). I think the concept would work well for TV or movies. Anne on TV would be great for me!

P'ter · Nov 21 2008, 08:33 AM

Carrial (sp?) used several 'faces' didn't she, especially when 'gaming'

kevia · Nov 21 2008, 08:40 AM

She did!

And she used a "frog" to communicate with the globe frogs.

AnnMarie · Nov 21 2008, 11:15 AM

I think at times all of the Brains had some sort of avatar. Simeon had the dog, although that was more his pet than himself.

P'ter · Nov 21 2008, 12:47 PM

I thought his 'dog' was his alta ego

Brenda · Nov 21 2008, 03:23 PM

The "dog" represented the station's AI.

Lis · Nov 21 2008, 05:57 PM

Simeon projected a face too, of how he saw himself, he wore a baseball cap and had a duelling scar.

P'ter · Nov 21 2008, 09:11 PM

"Hubba-hubba!"

Lady Maelin · Nov 21 2008, 11:31 PM

I really think that a new ship personality would work great
on T.V., especially if they also combined the moto body like
Tia's, and the multiple screen personalities of Carrialle...toss
in a few different traveling compainions with along with a
fantastic brawn...and you have what it takes for a hit T.V.
show.

GinnyStar · Nov 22 2008, 02:41 AM

Hi all! I am getting to

vote, I think on it and get back to you.

If I recall right something about Anne wanting to do Doona as a move

"srug shoulder" Its was on a tape via a Inter-libary loan which may not be around. "An Address by Anne McCaffrey"

Just around the publishcation of DragonDrum and YA books.

Dannette · Jan 27 2013, 10:37 PM

Ship Who Searched for me, I'm on my third copy in paperback -my first I re-read till it fell apart, I gave my second to a dear friend, and my third is looking somewhat dog-eared now. Of course with something so well loved, yes, if they ballsed it up I would be extemely annoyed *remembers the cock-up with the Dinotopia series in 2004

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Originally Posted by granath

Although to be frank, there are some glaring continuity issues in SSearched as well, such as when conversations are recorded in the cabin and when they aren't. Tia wasn't worrying about recordings when Alex blackmailed her (unintentionally, but nevertheless) into taking him as her brawn, but certainly later. And I wondered last time I read when they were on the treasure cache planet how Alex dared to get out of his suit while they were still under the snow. That's when they discovered the things about the EsKay maps, and he walked in stockinged feet, etc. He should've stayed in the suit, preferably until it could be purged in space.

Yes, and I've just noticed another "Anne-consistency" myself, about the ages that people are shelled.

Page 18, Tia recalling Moira telling her things about the shell-person program:
"The last time Moira had come to visit, she'd told Tia some stories about what going into the shellperson program had been like, for unlike most shellpersons, she hadn't been popped into her shell until she'd been nearly four. (bold, my emphasis, and a paragraph down it states she WAS four when shelled.)

Then on Page 170, she's talking to Alex about how she became a shellperson, and he states:
"How did you get into the shellperson program?" he asked. "I thought they didn't take anyone after the age of one!"
"They didn't, until me, she replied. (bold my emphasis.)

Except that they had taken Moira, before her, at almost four, or four....

Dannette

granath · Jul 15 2016, 07:39 AM

^ That one's certainly a glaring example. Still, Tia remains my favorite Brain.

GinnyStar · Jul 21 2016, 09:05 PM

Well I just found mine https://www.amazon.com/Ship-Who-Sang...+Ship+Who+Sang

https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Ships-B...17MBTNDPSBQTZD

https://www.amazon.com/City-Brain-Br...K9E2DMCY87Z5MG

https://www.amazon.com/Saved-Worlds-...K9E2DMCY87Z5MG

And shared the information with some else.

But I think many of them would be good. Or the idea of shellperson control in The Ship that Searched. And drat, I have to get back to you on that.

Greenrider Tresa · Jul 31 2016, 12:12 AM

I'm still disappointed that The Ship Who Sang isn't available for Kindle. My copy is old and faded. At least I've got a magnifier and a CCTV for when I want to read it.

GinnyStar · Jul 31 2016, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenrider Tresa

I'm still disappointed that The Ship Who Sang isn't available for Kindle. My copy is old and faded. At least I've got a magnifier and a CCTV for when I want to read it.

Same thing here.

View Poll Results: Who would you want to see immortalised on film?
Helva the Singer	3	18.75%
Hypatia and Alex's search for the Eskays	8	50.00%
Carialle, Keff and the Mythic Beasts	2	12.50%
Nancia's morality play	0	0%
Simeon, the City	2	12.50%
Another major player I may have forgotten!	1	6.25%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

Aug 13 2007, 01:28 PM	#1
Gidget2 Brainship Courier Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wiltshire, England Fan of: The Ship Series Now Reading: Dragonheart, baby!	Brains on TV! I was sat around wondering the other day (as you do), and a thought struck me. There has been talk for some years about making DRoP into some kind of TV series or movie or cartoon or somesuch, but what with their being a large market out there for the harder sci-fi that is set in space (well, I'm no publisher or media type but I am presuming so!) how about the BB series of books being made into something visual? Who would you want to see being made over in this way? The adventures of Helva as she sings around the galaxy? Alex and Tia as they track down the EsKay homeworld? Carialle as she and Keff scoot around trying to find more beasties? Perhaps Nancia as she tries to balance her morals against a very amoral universe? Or Simeon's life story? I'm not actually sure who I would vote for, to be honest! I think that Helva's is a very 'tellable' story and it does break up nicely into sections. But then the EsKay search could be a pretty good series too. So what do all of you Brain-lovers think???? __________________ Above us, outlined against the brilliant sky, dragons crowded every available perching space on the Rim. And the sun made a gold of every one of them.

Aug 13 2007, 03:29 PM	#2
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Fan of: Pern!	Re: Brains on TV! Hypathia without a doubt; I think hers is the best story to be made into a movie/TV show! __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Aug 13 2007, 04:18 PM	#3
Greenrider Tresa The Contrary Planetary Brain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Fan of: The Ship Who Searched Now Reading: The Calhoun Collection, Nora Roberts	Re: Brains on TV! Tia, if only because she's my favorite.. __________________ Thinking, understanding, reasoning, willing, call not these Soul! They are its actions, but they are not its essence. Akhenaton? (c. B.C. 1375) Egyptian King and Monotheist

Aug 13 2007, 04:42 PM	#4
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Pronouns: She/her Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Relentless Moon by MRKowal	Re: Brains on TV! I've long thought that the Brainships would make a great TV show. Though rather than try to turn a specific book into a show, I think they could create a new character. That way they're not tied to a plot that might not translate perfectly onto the screen -- and won't upset fans by changing it. Some of the 'real' brainships could have cameos from time to time. __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Aug 14 2007, 04:27 AM	#5
granath Talent Tower Prime Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Proud Mom! Fan of: Afra Lyon Now Reading: PiF	Re: Brains on TV! I like Cheryl's idea. But if they do decide to use one of Anne's characters, I'd suggest Tia. Mainly because as we know her as a mobile human child, she'll be that much easier to relate to as a character for most people. Otherwise the temptation to insert a human face on one viewscreen so that the brawn has a human to interact with would be all too tempting, and that would change Anne's concept a bit too much for my taste. With Hypatia, we also get the MotoProsthetic body near the end, making the character even more human. __________________ Decaf coffee is an oxymoron. Instant coffee is an abomination. Give me the real thing and nobody gets hurt. "Do. Or do not. There is no try" -- Yoda VP of the Afra Lyon fan club!

Aug 14 2007, 09:16 AM	#6
Gidget2 Brainship Courier Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wiltshire, England Fan of: The Ship Series Now Reading: Dragonheart, baby!	Re: Brains on TV! Mmm. I hadn't considered the angle that Cheryl suggested! It would make a lot of sense! And Granath is right too - a face on a viewscreen would rather defeat the purpose of the entire Brain-Brawn dynamic. Brawn's are trained to accept that the entire ship (or City or Station) is one extension of that being - although some Brains project an image in certain cases, it would not appear to be the norm. It's quite interesting that Tia is (so far) the favourite. Is it, as Granath touch upon, the fact that there is more of a human aspect to her? We get to see her personality as a human child, the effects of her illness and how it effects her life as a shellperson. All the others we see purely as the entity of Brain. It is only Tia who has that 'extra' part. __________________ Above us, outlined against the brilliant sky, dragons crowded every available perching space on the Rim. And the sun made a gold of every one of them.

Aug 14 2007, 10:42 AM	#7
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Pronouns: She/her Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Relentless Moon by MRKowal	Re: Brains on TV! Brawns may be trained to accept it, and as readers we're used to the idea (and anyway you can't see a face when you read). However I would suspect that if it ever was developed for tv, that they would do a face on a viewscreen to help the audience relate. And I don't honestly think that detracts too much from it, less so that than the idea of the full moto-body that Tia gets. __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Aug 14 2007, 01:18 PM	#8
Gidget2 Brainship Courier Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wiltshire, England Fan of: The Ship Series Now Reading: Dragonheart, baby!	Re: Brains on TV! For those of you have ever watched the UK comedy 'Red Dwarf', the image of Holly rather springs to mind (and probably quite unfairly) as to one avenue 'they' could explore. For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, suffice it to say that Holly was the ship's computer who was a disembodied head on a TV screen. It was made in the 90s and the effects for Holly were not that good, and it really was a small TV screen. Do you think Tia wanted the body so much because she'd already had one? __________________ Above us, outlined against the brilliant sky, dragons crowded every available perching space on the Rim. And the sun made a gold of every one of them.

Aug 14 2007, 03:47 PM	#9
granath Talent Tower Prime Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Proud Mom! Fan of: Afra Lyon Now Reading: PiF	Re: Brains on TV! I think so. She knew what it felt like to have a body, and I suspect they couldn't condition her as much as they conditioned babies shelled at a few months of age. After all, Tia still needs to sleep for three hours a day, unlike Helva or any other brainship we hear about. I wonder if Moira needs to sleep as well... __________________ Decaf coffee is an oxymoron. Instant coffee is an abomination. Give me the real thing and nobody gets hurt. "Do. Or do not. There is no try" -- Yoda VP of the Afra Lyon fan club!

Aug 14 2007, 07:46 PM	#10
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Brains on TV! Naturally I would love to see Helva come to the screen...just as Anne wrote it. But for the T.V. small screen I can see Cheryl's idea been a very realistic one that actually could be made into a fantastic series...and very contemporary with the very intelligent ship that has all this personality and the brawns that keep changing from time to time as do the passengers. I do see the real benifit to doing Tia also..her robotic body would add reall intrest to different episodes where she could leave her ship for short periods of time...WOW this is all so interesting now I want to see some outfit really make it!!! P.S. Thank you Gidget for thinking up this one...this really will give me some lovely daydreams to think on...and a T.V. show/movie to hope for...someday!!! __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Aug 15 2007, 09:24 AM	#12
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Pronouns: She/her Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Relentless Moon by MRKowal	Re: Brains on TV! It doesn't avoid copyright issues, anyone developing such a show would still have to buy the rights to the books. But it avoids annoying fans by not living up to their expectations of how a book should translate to tv. __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Aug 15 2007, 02:06 PM	#13
Kath Starsmith Weyrwoman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oop North Fan of: Moreta	Re: Brains on TV! Tia, for the reasons mentioned above. And I reckon it'd make a great episodic mini-series.

Sep 1 2007, 10:50 PM	#14
Kugai Crazy Kiwi Shoujo-Ai Fan Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wellington NEW ZEALAND Fan of: Tower and Hive Series Now Reading: Whatever takes my fancy at the moment	Re: Brains on TV! As much as I would like to see Helva's tale brought to the screen , I think Tia's tale would most likely make a better story to start out with. Undoubtedly, if her tale were to prove sucessful enough, it could probably lead to the others being adapted. __________________ JAMES THE You can never have too much Coffee FanFic Original Homepage FreeBabylon5 FreeBabylon5 Website

Sep 2 2007, 12:46 PM	#15
granath Talent Tower Prime Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Proud Mom! Fan of: Afra Lyon Now Reading: PiF	Re: Brains on TV! Although to be frank, there are some glaring continuity issues in SSearched as well, such as when conversations are recorded in the cabin and when they aren't. Tia wasn't worrying about recordings when Alex blackmailed her (unintentionally, but nevertheless) into taking him as her brawn, but certainly later. And I wondered last time I read when they were on the treasure cache planet how Alex dared to get out of his suit while they were still under the snow. That's when they discovered the things about the EsKay maps, and he walked in stockinged feet, etc. He should've stayed in the suit, preferably until it could be purged in space. __________________ Decaf coffee is an oxymoron. Instant coffee is an abomination. Give me the real thing and nobody gets hurt. "Do. Or do not. There is no try" -- Yoda VP of the Afra Lyon fan club!

Sep 5 2007, 04:39 AM	#16
edith Dragonrider Weyrwoman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Delft Fan of: Most of them :) Now Reading: Don't You Have Time To Think- RP Feynman	Re: Brains on TV! I always thought that they'd be better on radio... I mean, even with CGI you'd have problems with Fred. __________________ "Should a rocket explode upon starting, it is called a "hard start." " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergolic

Sep 7 2007, 11:51 PM	#17
Topaz the Golden Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: new windsor, ny (between whats real and fanstasy Fan of: all of them Now Reading: anything I can get my hands on	Re: Brains on TV! you sould have added all of the above I can't pick I would love to see them all __________________ Blessed Be Everyone Can you teach a dragon to fetch a stick? YES but it brings back a tree!!!!!! Hi my name is Michelle and I can't stop reading.(I have no plans on stopping now) Books are like potato chips just can't read one!!!!!! Michelle

Sep 26 2007, 06:38 PM	#18
Nina Talent Finder Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Denmark Fan of: The Talent series Now Reading: almost a book a day	Re: Brains on TV! I would choose Simeon the City - I already saw the film when reading. Maybe I have a good imagination __________________ Nina The Rowan is my favourite! "The name rowan is believed to derive from the Norse runa - "a charm". It was often planted outside houses to ward off witches. On May Day a spray of rowan leaves was hung over doors to repel evil, and wells dressed with rowan to keep witches away. The rowan, or mountain ash, is found commonly in Scotland, sometimes clinging to a rock face."

Sep 27 2007, 04:51 AM	#19
Gidget2 Brainship Courier Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wiltshire, England Fan of: The Ship Series Now Reading: Dragonheart, baby!	Re: Brains on TV! LOL Nina - no, I quite agree that the visuals there would be quite stunning, especially if they were to include a chunk of the Kolnari back-story. __________________ Above us, outlined against the brilliant sky, dragons crowded every available perching space on the Rim. And the sun made a gold of every one of them.

Sep 27 2007, 07:51 AM	#20
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Pronouns: She/her Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Relentless Moon by MRKowal	Re: Brains on TV! Well, at EuroCon Anne herself said that she's always thought Helva would translate well to tv, but that a project never got off the ground for it. __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Nov 17 2008, 08:03 PM	#21
jube Dolphineer Journeywoman Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Fan of: Dragons of Pern Now Reading: Puzzles and my thesaurus!	Re: Brains on TV! You would still have the human aspect of Helva (well besides the obvious statements of Tia). After all, the start of the series would be from when Helva's mother gave birth to her and finding out about Helva's physical disabilities. The decision of putting her into a shell etc would be an "endearing" point of view as most parents would relate to the "what if's", especially those who have children with disabilities (both physical and mental/learning e.g. dyslexia, aspergers, AHDH). It would reek of the humane-ness of what people go through to find themselves in that situation. But then what's considered "normal"? A person who is physically able, would consider themselves normal, in much the same way that a person with disabilities would consider themselves normal. It's how we look at it and compare. Consider how it's written in the books, that "shelled" people consider "soft-shells" as being too soft (pardon the pun here) and vice versa - shells as being a hard-core tin-plated @#%^. MM and SPRIM getting a workout for sure. __________________ Dolphineer Journeywoman and part-time researcher.... Find me on ebay..... Here'tis!

Nov 18 2008, 01:17 AM	#22
Greenrider Tresa The Contrary Planetary Brain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Fan of: The Ship Who Searched Now Reading: The Calhoun Collection, Nora Roberts	Re: Brains on TV! Excellently stated, Jube. I think normal is more of an individual state than some blanket term that applies the same way to everyone. If that makes sense... __________________ Thinking, understanding, reasoning, willing, call not these Soul! They are its actions, but they are not its essence. Akhenaton? (c. B.C. 1375) Egyptian King and Monotheist

Nov 18 2008, 06:21 PM	#23
Brenda Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. Louis	Re: Brains on TV! I voted for Tia, because she's the one I get the most emotionally involved with. The runners-up for me are Carialle and Simeon, although both would be compared to Star Trek - Carialle with TOS and TNG, and Simeon with DS9 - that one basically had the same plot at one point, just with less raping and pillaging. __________________ . Check out my Pern fiction! Mirrim's Vigil News from the Weyr Missing Link Dragonsong: An Alternate Tune Ghost in the Tunnels Changes at Riverbend Hold Pern Songs

Nov 19 2008, 02:25 PM	#24
Pernaficionado Inactive Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Fan of: Dragonsong Now Reading: brainships	Re: Brains on TV! I voted on Helva, but i was thinking more in terms of tv series and less in terms of a movie. Helva's plot breaks up into so many little stories that I think it would adapt well to the structured format of a series. I was a little concerned about the corviki translation though. __________________ Pernaficionado

Nov 19 2008, 08:06 PM	#25
Sandi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004	Re: Brains on TV! I like Cheryl's idea of a fresh start with a new Brain (or several!). I do see how Helva's story would translate easily and Tia's character would be more empathetic (for some). And, like Nina, I "see a movie" every time I read City Who Fought. I wouldn't have a problem with a "face on a screen" situation. Simeon used one and so did Tia (snarling dog). I think the concept would work well for TV or movies. Anne on TV would be great for me!

Nov 21 2008, 08:33 AM	#26
P'ter Crafter Craftmaster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Pronouns: He/him Fan of: Favorite? Now Reading: avidly	Re: Brains on TV! Carrial (sp?) used several 'faces' didn't she, especially when 'gaming' __________________ "Truth is stranger than fiction: fiction has to make sense." Leo Rosten. "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C. S. Lewis "I find television very educational. Whenever somebody switches it on I go in the other room and read a book." (attributed to Groucho Marx) The Pedants are revolting! (against bad grammar)

Nov 21 2008, 08:40 AM	#27
kevia Ballybran Resident Tuner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Somewhere in the USA Fan of: Nimisha's Ship Now Reading: Crystal Line	Re: Brains on TV! She did! And she used a "frog" to communicate with the globe frogs. __________________ Kevia

Nov 21 2008, 11:15 AM	#28
AnnMarie Dragonrider Weyrwoman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: On the Edge Fan of: Pern and Talent Now Reading: The Name of the Rose	Re: Brains on TV! I think at times all of the Brains had some sort of avatar. Simeon had the dog, although that was more his pet than himself.

Nov 21 2008, 12:47 PM	#29
P'ter Crafter Craftmaster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Pronouns: He/him Fan of: Favorite? Now Reading: avidly	Re: Brains on TV! I thought his 'dog' was his alta ego __________________ "Truth is stranger than fiction: fiction has to make sense." Leo Rosten. "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C. S. Lewis "I find television very educational. Whenever somebody switches it on I go in the other room and read a book." (attributed to Groucho Marx) The Pedants are revolting! (against bad grammar)

Nov 21 2008, 03:23 PM	#30
Brenda Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. Louis	Re: Brains on TV! The "dog" represented the station's AI. __________________ . Check out my Pern fiction! Mirrim's Vigil News from the Weyr Missing Link Dragonsong: An Alternate Tune Ghost in the Tunnels Changes at Riverbend Hold Pern Songs

Nov 21 2008, 05:57 PM	#31
Lis Ballybran Resident Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Fan of: All	Re: Brains on TV! Simeon projected a face too, of how he saw himself, he wore a baseball cap and had a duelling scar.

Nov 21 2008, 09:11 PM	#32
P'ter Crafter Craftmaster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Pronouns: He/him Fan of: Favorite? Now Reading: avidly	Re: Brains on TV! "Hubba-hubba!" __________________ "Truth is stranger than fiction: fiction has to make sense." Leo Rosten. "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C. S. Lewis "I find television very educational. Whenever somebody switches it on I go in the other room and read a book." (attributed to Groucho Marx) The Pedants are revolting! (against bad grammar)

Nov 21 2008, 11:31 PM	#33
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: Brains on TV! I really think that a new ship personality would work great on T.V., especially if they also combined the moto body like Tia's, and the multiple screen personalities of Carrialle...toss in a few different traveling compainions with along with a fantastic brawn...and you have what it takes for a hit T.V. show. __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Nov 22 2008, 02:41 AM	#34
GinnyStar Dolphineer Craftmaster Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Wausau, Wisconsin, USA -- CST or CDT Pronouns: SheShe Fan of: PShPern BB, Tia., and Oth Now Reading: MHOP, Books Jerry Apps, Too Many to Post	Re: Brains on TV! Hi all! I am getting to vote, I think on it and get back to you. If I recall right something about Anne wanting to do Doona as a move "srug shoulder" Its was on a tape via a Inter-libary loan which may not be around. "An Address by Anne McCaffrey" Just around the publishcation of DragonDrum and YA books. __________________ Lover s s, s and friends Lover of and beads, http://www.change.org/profiles/GinnyStar Dragoncave GinnyStar2 Jellied Dragons Lair of Dragons http://dragcave.net/user/GinnyStar2 Thanks! Others: None at this time WIP http://archiveofourown.org/works/252259 http://www.daisy.org/learning-difficulties

Jul 15 2016, 07:39 AM	#36
granath Talent Tower Prime Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Proud Mom! Fan of: Afra Lyon Now Reading: PiF	Re: Brains on TV! ^ That one's certainly a glaring example. Still, Tia remains my favorite Brain. __________________ Decaf coffee is an oxymoron. Instant coffee is an abomination. Give me the real thing and nobody gets hurt. "Do. Or do not. There is no try" -- Yoda VP of the Afra Lyon fan club!