MQ2007 Topic! - Page 2 - A Meeting of Minds

Sandi · Jun 14 2007, 04:56 PM

I feel cheated and robbed! To be honest I never paid that much attention to discussions about differences in versions. It now seems that what we in the US got is almost a Reader's Digest Condensed version, with a lot of the author's style altered or simply removed!

**Cheryl** · Jun 15 2007, 01:14 AM

That's one way to look at it. At a panel about editing that I attended at WorldCon last fall, the authors on it viewed their US editions as more authoritative, recognizing that the extra editing that was done to them produced a better end product. But for those of us who are very detail oriented, the extra info found in the UK Dragonsdawn is quite fascinating!

Allana · Jun 15 2007, 07:42 PM

It would be nice if there weren't any questions concerning the differences between UK and US, seeing as I have absolutely no extra money to spend on different editions!

mmarkina · Jun 16 2007, 03:19 PM

Yeah, or at least tell people ahead of time which version you are drawing the questions from.

L'isa · Jun 17 2007, 01:09 PM

Would it be possible for someone to post the covers for the two different DD and maybe the publishers? I have one, but would like to find the other. TIA.

***Hans*** · Jun 17 2007, 03:52 PM

L'isa. the differences occur between every UK and US edition of Dragonsdawn.

The US editions are published by Ballantines/Del Rey and the UK editions by Bantam (hardcover) and Corgi (paperback).

Gwina · Jun 17 2007, 04:53 PM

I agree with Sandi. I'm infuriated! The first thing you learn as an English major is close reading of texts. The minor differences can make all the difference.

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. It says a lot about US publications. I guess I'll just have to start buying UK editions to satisfy my thirst. Ugh!! How frustrating!

So, now what editions will be covered in the MQ? All?

L'isa · Jun 18 2007, 09:12 AM

Thanks Hans, I also found the forum here that has the covers of all the books from different countries. I was a little confused, is DD the only one that has the differences or all the books.

***Hans*** · Jun 18 2007, 11:01 AM

As far as I/we know Dragosdawn has the most differences between the editions. But there are always small differences.

Anneli did the comparison of most of Dragonsdawn. I did a comparison between editions of the short story P.E.R.N. Survey, and while Anneli discovered, as said earlier, 40 extra characters (all minor) and many differences in many parapgraphs, I found only minor lingual differences and a sentence omitted or different here and there.

I don't know for sure but don't think other Pern books have as much differences as Dragonsdawn but until we have compared them we can't say anything for sure.

L'isa · Jun 18 2007, 11:49 AM

Thanks Hans, as always, you and the staff here are always so willing to give of your wealth of information. We all appreciate the time you guys put into this.

***Hans*** · Jun 18 2007, 02:48 PM

Ah, but we love to do both the research and the sharing, Maw!

(we especially like mothers with "impressionable" daughters... impressionable to Anne McCaffrey's writing that is

)

Lady Maelin · Jun 30 2007, 04:52 PM

Seems I am going to be studying for the quest, while I am on the plane going to Copenhagen...what better way to spend my time on-board, than by reading one of the books on the list for the McCaffrey Quest.

Gidget2 · Jul 5 2007, 05:16 PM

I'd just like to ask a quick question: Is it possible to compete in a non-competitive way? Kind of unofficially?

I don't have all my AMC collection with me (as I have said before, they are in France where I used to live and I am now in the UK!) so cannot re-read them all in time (even using our local library which is generally good at Sci-Fi/Fantasy but not that good at AMC - or maybe so good that they are always checked out!). But I would like to have a go to see what I remember and what is lodged in a crinkle of my brain somewhere without having to revise.

Or should I just enter normally and see what happens? LOL

***Hans*** · Jul 5 2007, 06:11 PM

Sorry Gidget, you either enter (last year there were people too that guessed many answers; possible because the majority is multiple choice) or you don't. The alternative is writing down the answers for yourself and wait until the answers are published

Gidget2 · Jul 5 2007, 06:47 PM

LOL Cool. An entry for me then

mawra · Jul 5 2007, 08:23 PM

Well it lppks like I've got some reading to do. I may even get Kibbie intrusted in read some of those non-Pern books. She rembers every hting ecept to do school work & chores LOL

***Hans*** · Jul 6 2007, 04:15 AM

Hang on there Maw, I honestly think reading a ot will definitely help her spelling, vocabulary for sure and her general language skills!

**Cheryl** · Jul 7 2007, 05:09 PM

Posts about spelling and such have been moved to the Cafe as "Spelling and Language"

L'isa · Jul 7 2007, 07:50 PM

We do get off on tangents, don't we.

**Cheryl** · Jul 7 2007, 08:30 PM

I love tangents, tangents are welcome here! They just need to get put into their own topics when they crop up, which is what the power of the staff is for!

L'isa · Jul 7 2007, 08:33 PM

P'ter · Jul 8 2007, 11:03 AM

(Imagines Cheryl, Hans and co standing in a line wielding large staves like Gandalf's)

FlameCat · Jul 8 2007, 11:55 AM

"You shall not SPAM!"...hehe

Ailsa_Elizabeth · Aug 7 2007, 12:04 AM

I have one question - Does the Quest last all month or do you have to answer the questions within a certain time frame eg. a weekend or something??

***Hans*** · Aug 7 2007, 01:06 AM

Up till now it has always been over a weekend, Ailsa.

Ailsa_Elizabeth · Aug 7 2007, 02:16 AM

Right - have we decided which weekend yet??

I am sorry if I am being a pest about asking this early but my schedule for the rest of the year is pretty full and I would love to take part in the Quest.

**Cheryl** · Aug 7 2007, 08:29 AM

We haven't picked the weekend yet, but it'll be one of the last ones in October, since several of us running it will be going to EuroCon in late September and will need time to prepare for it afterwards.

P'ter · Aug 7 2007, 12:37 PM

... and October's only got 4 Saturdays THIS year

Lady Maelin · Aug 7 2007, 12:48 PM

Peter, You just never know how many weekends October has until the staff tells us...ROFL!!!

P'ter · Aug 7 2007, 04:43 PM

so I found out LAST year.

edith · Aug 9 2007, 04:04 PM

just so long as it isn't during the UK gather or when I have an assignment (like last year)

Lady Maelin · Aug 10 2007, 12:10 AM

I just hope that I have time to get all ready for it...I need to study a few more books yet.

Ailsa_Elizabeth · Aug 10 2007, 12:16 AM

Ok then if it works out to be one of the last weekends I might be able to participate because I might not be so booked out with dancing then!!

Kath · Aug 11 2007, 11:24 AM

Heh. It's obviously going to clash with my cousin's wedding now...

***Anneli*** · Aug 11 2007, 04:21 PM

Sorry, Kath, not on purpose, honest

***Hans*** · Aug 12 2007, 04:41 AM

Oh, come one Anneli, wasn't it you who said that if Kath had something to distract her she might miss an answer, maybe two?

*runs*

Kath · Aug 12 2007, 07:24 AM

Laugh while ye can!

Jax · Aug 13 2007, 02:06 PM

mmarkina · Sep 4 2007, 11:43 AM

So...
any ideas as to when exactly the quest will be this year?

I know its in October, but maybe you guys have pinned down the exact dates (?)

**Cheryl** · Sep 4 2007, 02:07 PM

It's going to have to be the last weekend in October, there's no way we'll be ready sooner.

Jun 14 2007, 04:56 PM	#41
Sandi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Gender: F	Re: MQ2007 Topic! I feel cheated and robbed! To be honest I never paid that much attention to discussions about differences in versions. It now seems that what we in the US got is almost a Reader's Digest Condensed version, with a lot of the author's style altered or simply removed!

Jun 15 2007, 01:14 AM	#42
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: MQ2007 Topic! That's one way to look at it. At a panel about editing that I attended at WorldCon last fall, the authors on it viewed their US editions as more authoritative, recognizing that the extra editing that was done to them produced a better end product. But for those of us who are very detail oriented, the extra info found in the UK Dragonsdawn is quite fascinating! __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Jun 15 2007, 07:42 PM	#43
Allana Greenrider 'Lana Candidate Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa City, IA United States Gender: F Fan of: Crystal, Pern, Dino P. Now Reading: The Death of Artemio Cruz, Fuentes	Re: MQ2007 Topic! It would be nice if there weren't any questions concerning the differences between UK and US, seeing as I have absolutely no extra money to spend on different editions!

Jun 16 2007, 03:19 PM	#44
mmarkina Member Jewel Junk Join Date: Nov 2006 Gender: F Fan of: dragonsinger series Now Reading: all the quest books	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Yeah, or at least tell people ahead of time which version you are drawing the questions from.

Jun 17 2007, 01:09 PM	#45
L'isa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Paradise Gender: F Fan of: Dragonflight Now Reading: Xenocide	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Would it be possible for someone to post the covers for the two different DD and maybe the publishers? I have one, but would like to find the other. TIA. __________________ Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Jun 17 2007, 03:52 PM	#46
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: MQ2007 Topic! L'isa. the differences occur between every UK and US edition of Dragonsdawn. The US editions are published by Ballantines/Del Rey and the UK editions by Bantam (hardcover) and Corgi (paperback). __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Jun 17 2007, 04:53 PM	#47
Gwina Talent Telempath-Healer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Small town Alabama! Gender: F Fan of: white dragon, tower/hive Now Reading: Insurgent, The Last Apprentice, Damia (again)	Re: MQ2007 Topic! I agree with Sandi. I'm infuriated! The first thing you learn as an English major is close reading of texts. The minor differences can make all the difference. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. It says a lot about US publications. I guess I'll just have to start buying UK editions to satisfy my thirst. Ugh!! How frustrating! So, now what editions will be covered in the MQ? All? __________________ "There's no explainin' East or West as they say in Bree." - LOTR "The Answer to the Great Question . . . of Life, the Universe and Everything . . . Is . . . Forty-two."--Deep Thought "Whatever zapped me seems to have burned off the outlived dross and stupidities any human collects along the way. I don't mind being two hundred and fifteen years old. In fact, it's fun, in a bizarre fashion."

Jun 18 2007, 09:12 AM	#48
L'isa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Paradise Gender: F Fan of: Dragonflight Now Reading: Xenocide	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Thanks Hans, I also found the forum here that has the covers of all the books from different countries. I was a little confused, is DD the only one that has the differences or all the books. __________________ Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Jun 18 2007, 11:01 AM	#49
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: MQ2007 Topic! As far as I/we know Dragosdawn has the most differences between the editions. But there are always small differences. Anneli did the comparison of most of Dragonsdawn. I did a comparison between editions of the short story P.E.R.N. Survey, and while Anneli discovered, as said earlier, 40 extra characters (all minor) and many differences in many parapgraphs, I found only minor lingual differences and a sentence omitted or different here and there. I don't know for sure but don't think other Pern books have as much differences as Dragonsdawn but until we have compared them we can't say anything for sure. __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Jun 18 2007, 11:49 AM	#50
L'isa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Paradise Gender: F Fan of: Dragonflight Now Reading: Xenocide	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Thanks Hans, as always, you and the staff here are always so willing to give of your wealth of information. We all appreciate the time you guys put into this. __________________ Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Jun 18 2007, 02:48 PM	#51
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Ah, but we love to do both the research and the sharing, Maw! (we especially like mothers with "impressionable" daughters... impressionable to Anne McCaffrey's writing that is ) __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Jun 30 2007, 04:52 PM	#52
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Seems I am going to be studying for the quest, while I am on the plane going to Copenhagen...what better way to spend my time on-board, than by reading one of the books on the list for the McCaffrey Quest. __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Jul 5 2007, 05:16 PM	#53
Gidget2 Brainship Courier Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wiltshire, England Gender: M Fan of: The Ship Series Now Reading: Dragonheart, baby!	Re: MQ2007 Topic! I'd just like to ask a quick question: Is it possible to compete in a non-competitive way? Kind of unofficially? I don't have all my AMC collection with me (as I have said before, they are in France where I used to live and I am now in the UK!) so cannot re-read them all in time (even using our local library which is generally good at Sci-Fi/Fantasy but not that good at AMC - or maybe so good that they are always checked out!). But I would like to have a go to see what I remember and what is lodged in a crinkle of my brain somewhere without having to revise. Or should I just enter normally and see what happens? LOL

Jul 5 2007, 06:11 PM	#54
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Sorry Gidget, you either enter (last year there were people too that guessed many answers; possible because the majority is multiple choice) or you don't. The alternative is writing down the answers for yourself and wait until the answers are published __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Jul 5 2007, 06:47 PM	#55
Gidget2 Brainship Courier Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wiltshire, England Gender: M Fan of: The Ship Series Now Reading: Dragonheart, baby!	Re: MQ2007 Topic! LOL Cool. An entry for me then

Jul 5 2007, 08:23 PM	#56
mawra Dolphin Friend Craftmaster Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CONCORD VA Gender: F Fan of: PERN Now Reading: Dolphins of Pern and Queens ow	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Well it lppks like I've got some reading to do. I may even get Kibbie intrusted in read some of those non-Pern books. She rembers every hting ecept to do school work & chores LOL __________________ November is write a 50,000 (or more) word novel, so go write MEDDLE NOT IN THE AFFAIRS OF DRAGONS, FOR YOU ARE CRUNCHY AND GOOD WITH CHOCOLATE SO MANY BOOKS SO LITTLE TIME DRIVING SMART KEEPS YOU ALIVE

Jul 6 2007, 04:15 AM	#57
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Hang on there Maw, I honestly think reading a ot will definitely help her spelling, vocabulary for sure and her general language skills! __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Jul 7 2007, 05:09 PM	#58
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Posts about spelling and such have been moved to the Cafe as "Spelling and Language" __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Jul 7 2007, 07:50 PM	#59
L'isa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Paradise Gender: F Fan of: Dragonflight Now Reading: Xenocide	Re: MQ2007 Topic! We do get off on tangents, don't we. __________________ Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Jul 7 2007, 08:30 PM	#60
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: MQ2007 Topic! I love tangents, tangents are welcome here! They just need to get put into their own topics when they crop up, which is what the power of the staff is for! __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Jul 7 2007, 08:33 PM	#61
L'isa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Paradise Gender: F Fan of: Dragonflight Now Reading: Xenocide	Re: MQ2007 Topic! __________________ Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Jul 8 2007, 11:03 AM	#62
P'ter Crafter Craftmaster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Gender: M Fan of: Favorite? Now Reading: avidly	Re: MQ2007 Topic! (Imagines Cheryl, Hans and co standing in a line wielding large staves like Gandalf's) __________________ "Truth is stranger than fiction: fiction has to make sense." Leo Rosten. "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C. S. Lewis "I find television very educational. Whenever somebody switches it on I go in the other room and read a book." (attributed to Groucho Marx) The Pedants are revolting! (against bad grammar)

Jul 8 2007, 11:55 AM	#63
FlameCat Dragonrider Candidate Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: England Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Grimm's Fairy Tales	Re: MQ2007 Topic! "You shall not SPAM!"...hehe

Aug 7 2007, 12:04 AM	#64
Ailsa_Elizabeth Inactive Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kurri Kurri, NSW Gender: F Fan of: All of her books!! Now Reading: as much as possible	Re: MQ2007 Topic! I have one question - Does the Quest last all month or do you have to answer the questions within a certain time frame eg. a weekend or something??

Aug 7 2007, 01:06 AM	#65
*Hans* Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Netherlands Gender: M Fan of: Pern!	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Up till now it has always been over a weekend, Ailsa. __________________ Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources! The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.

Aug 7 2007, 02:16 AM	#66
Ailsa_Elizabeth Inactive Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kurri Kurri, NSW Gender: F Fan of: All of her books!! Now Reading: as much as possible	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Right - have we decided which weekend yet?? I am sorry if I am being a pest about asking this early but my schedule for the rest of the year is pretty full and I would love to take part in the Quest.

Aug 7 2007, 08:29 AM	#67
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: MQ2007 Topic! We haven't picked the weekend yet, but it'll be one of the last ones in October, since several of us running it will be going to EuroCon in late September and will need time to prepare for it afterwards. __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Aug 7 2007, 12:37 PM	#68
P'ter Crafter Craftmaster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Gender: M Fan of: Favorite? Now Reading: avidly	Re: MQ2007 Topic! ... and October's only got 4 Saturdays THIS year __________________ "Truth is stranger than fiction: fiction has to make sense." Leo Rosten. "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C. S. Lewis "I find television very educational. Whenever somebody switches it on I go in the other room and read a book." (attributed to Groucho Marx) The Pedants are revolting! (against bad grammar)

Aug 7 2007, 12:48 PM	#69
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Peter, You just never know how many weekends October has until the staff tells us...ROFL!!! __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Aug 7 2007, 04:43 PM	#70
P'ter Crafter Craftmaster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Gender: M Fan of: Favorite? Now Reading: avidly	Re: MQ2007 Topic! so I found out LAST year. __________________ "Truth is stranger than fiction: fiction has to make sense." Leo Rosten. "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C. S. Lewis "I find television very educational. Whenever somebody switches it on I go in the other room and read a book." (attributed to Groucho Marx) The Pedants are revolting! (against bad grammar)

Aug 9 2007, 04:04 PM	#71
edith Dragonrider Weyrwoman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Delft Gender: F Fan of: Most of them :) Now Reading: Don't You Have Time To Think- RP Feynman	Re: MQ2007 Topic! just so long as it isn't during the UK gather or when I have an assignment (like last year)

Aug 10 2007, 12:10 AM	#72
Lady Maelin Master Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Gender: F Fan of: Pern,The Ship Who Sang Now Reading: Anne's Pern EVERYTHING !	Re: MQ2007 Topic! I just hope that I have time to get all ready for it...I need to study a few more books yet. __________________ "To the Horsehead Nebula and back we shall make beautiful music"..."Together!" The stories of childhood leave an indelible impression,and their author always has a niche in the temple of memory from which the image is never cut out to be thrown on the rubbish heap of things that are outgrown and outlived........Howard Pyle

Aug 10 2007, 12:16 AM	#73
Ailsa_Elizabeth Inactive Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kurri Kurri, NSW Gender: F Fan of: All of her books!! Now Reading: as much as possible	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Ok then if it works out to be one of the last weekends I might be able to participate because I might not be so booked out with dancing then!!

Aug 11 2007, 11:24 AM	#74
Kath Starsmith Weyrwoman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oop North Fan of: Moreta	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Heh. It's obviously going to clash with my cousin's wedding now...

Aug 11 2007, 04:21 PM	#75
*Anneli* Weyrwoman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Shropshire Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Dragonflight	Re: MQ2007 Topic! Sorry, Kath, not on purpose, honest