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Old Nov 25 2007, 03:25 PM   #1
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Default Residual Facial Expressions

When I'm thinking a particularly verbal thought--ie, thinking up dialogue for a story--I'll find myself making facial expressions to go along with things. That is, until I realize I'm doing it, and I stop it, lest people think I'm nuts (a very real concern, considering schizophrenia runs in my family).

Anyway, that made me wonder...when telepaths are talking to one another, do you think a non-talent watching them will see them make faces, depending on what's being said? AMC seems to indicate no, but also indicates that telepaths think it's impolite to 'path around non-paths, so I'm wondering if, as a part of the politeness, they also school themselves not to make expressions while telepathing.

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Old Nov 26 2007, 12:25 PM   #2
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I think that somewhere Anne described the mind active talent as having a slightly vacant expression when concentrating. I could remember wrong, though.

However, I should think that if something was highly worrying or amusing it would be hard to retain a straight vacant face. At least the mind tone would indicate amusement or other feelings to the receiving talent. Sensitive un-talented people would pick up on muscle tension which is also described by Anne.

Having lively facial expressions at least indicate that one is very much alive I myself often have to explain in order not to be misunderstood.

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Old Nov 26 2007, 12:41 PM   #3
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I think that in general, since higher Talents would most likely be around other Talents, a small amount of facial expression would be allowable in public. I think in private that they'd just let themselves go. With what Jeff and Rowan got up to psychically, I doubt that she would have been able to keep *that* off her face!!

At the end of the series when Talents are placed on board military ships, I would imagine that Isthian, Roger et al would have to undergo some sort of self discipline to keep their features as plain as possible to minimise the possibility of someone else (mis)reading their body language and 'knowing' that whatever message they were waiting for was positive/negative/whatever.

Generally, the more a pathing Talent is in the contact with unTalented people, the more neutral they would have to be outwardly.
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Old Nov 26 2007, 01:59 PM   #4
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Perhaps it would be considered impolite to notice it if you are non-talented.
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Old Nov 26 2007, 02:44 PM   #5
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LOL Picturing a small child pointing to a pathing Talent and asking his mummy (daddy/primary care-giver) if the man with the funny face needs the toilet really bad and being hushed up LOL
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LOL! Good one, Gidget!
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I recently saw a play called "Warhorse" about horses in WW1.

The on-stage horses were lifesized puppets each worked by three puppeteers; two inside and one, running alongside like a groom, working the head and neck. You could always get an extra clue as to what emotion the horse was expressing by watching the "groom's" face!
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Did the "grooms" do that on purpose, as part of the play, sir?
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I think it wasjust that they were really getting into their role.
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Ah, I see. Thank you, Mr. P'ter.
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I always got the feeling that they got that slightly distant expression that a Dragonrider got when speaking to his/her Dragon.
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I'm rereading Damia, myself, and after reading the scene where Jeff deals with that Altairan captain and has a conversation with his mother at the same time, I feel that in conversation in front of clients they definitely try to keep the expression off their faces, but when not they don't bother as much. It probably depends entirely on the company they're in while having said telepathic conversations.

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When I'm thinking a particularly verbal thought--ie, thinking up dialogue for a story--I'll find myself making facial expressions to go along with things.
I do the same thing when drawing facial expressions or body language! It seems to help, though, so I try to ignore the weird looks
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I go with Kater... I also want to say others around them would be aware of such exchanges. The higher talents wouldn't give something like a facial expression away but they might give off a feeling of detachment or be mistaken for disinterest. I'm sure it depends. Speaking of facial expressions...I think it's a sign of great intellect. I should make more expressions when I'm writing or playing music. I tend to clam up and not let it go, so to speak. I think those who do really create! Don't stop. (-:
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