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Old May 27 2019, 06:05 PM   #4921
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Aside from the scruffy corners, one thing which has been really obviously detracting from the bodywork on the Invacar is the fact that the doors are a totally different colour to the rest of the body.

Today I threw a bit of paint at the nearside one to see if I could do anything to improve it.





Mostly has taken really well, just one area directly above the door handle where something has reacted with the paint. So I'll need to get that area rubbed back and repainted before getting things ready for another coat.


Definitely looks better than it did I think.
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Old May 28 2019, 08:47 PM   #4922
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Got everything´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ wiped down today (hopefully getting shot of the couple of bits of I'm guessing silicone residue) and have given it another few coats. Looking reasonable I think given what I'm working with.





Still needs´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ anot´╗┐her couple of coats I think, as the finish is a bit patchy yet, but we're getting there. It's forever since I've painted a larger panel so I've been playing the how-do-get-an-even-finish game. Especially in my cramped garage where I'm working in my own shadow the whole time. ´╗┐

´╗┐ I may well just take the door off and outside to do the final coat or two.´╗┐ If th´╗┐is hadn't landed on top of us when I was doing the work today I'd maybe have done so today.



Yes, the´╗┐´╗┐ resulting rain was precisely as heavy as it looked like it would be.

Have done another bit of tidying. Handlebars are no lon´╗┐ger rusty and as rough a´╗┐s sandpap´╗┐er.´╗┐



I've also´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ made a personal choice with regards to interior decor. The inside of the door upper runner and the pre´╗┐viously flaky windscreen´╗┐ pillar trims have also been painted bla´╗┐ck.





No, it's not factory´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ spec...but it's entirely reversible with naught but a paint brush, and it's my car. I think it looks better like´╗┐ this as it ties several parts of the interior together visually. Yes I'll touch in the little patch between the windscreen an dash top once I have a smaller brush to hand. Didn't want to get paint on the dashboard as it would be a pig to remove it from that finish. ´╗┐

Personally I think having a bit of detailing br´╗┐e´╗┐´╗┐aking up what was otherwise an unending sea of solid blue is an improvement.
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Old May 29 2019, 07:26 PM   #4923
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Now we're cooking with bacon (as my late father would have said).









I'm actually really happy with the finish I'm getting here. The original finish on these cars was laughable to be honest - I've seen kid's toys better finished. With a bit of flatting back this should be just fine. If I can manage to get this level of finish on the car as a whole I'll be a very happy camper. Annoyingly I got slightly too heavy handed right at the end and wound up with a couple of minor runs...even so I'm not too worried, runs and all it's still a million times better than it was.

Before the front end can be painted though I need to finish rebuilding the corners...the nearside one in particular was a joke. First bit of GRP work I'd done beyond patching up cracks in a bashed bus corner, and it showed. I've done some experiments now with the materials I have to hand and have a plan.

Step one is to cut back out my original fugly handiwork.



Which left me with a much more evenly shaped void than the ragged hole that was originally there. The panel above isn't too bad, just the bumper moulding and below that needs done.



Originally I had tried to build up a rough mould out of cardboard etc and to glass over that...which I found quite difficult to do accurately - especially trying to get the mat to adhere to the underside of the bumper moulding and the valance.

Have decided to take a different approach. I've built up a loose barrier behind the panel, then entombed the entire area in expanding foam.



Once that's set I'll "whittle it down" to sculpt the correct profile. A simple matter then to stick a layer or two of GRP over it, some filler and then we should have as close to an invisible repair as I'm likely to manage with the materials I have to hand. I'm far more used to sculpting stuff from foam, so reckon I've a far better shot at getting the profile right this way. Once the outer surface is built up the foam base can then be broken away from behind the panel.

The whole front of the car is basically just a giant mud guard, it's just a plastic box, so this approach is actually valid...rather than expanding foam being the absolutely last thing you want to ever see on a car when doing body repairs! Especially when a mate discovered the sills on their Jag XJ6 were entirely built of the stuff...
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Old May 31 2019, 06:55 PM   #4924
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Hey, look what *finally* turned up in the post this morning...



Was ordered on the third of May, from a seller which made a very loud point all over their webpage about how they were UK based...however failed to make any mention until after you had made the order that parts were shipped from "their partner warehouse" - in China. Go figure. However it was essentially free, and the part itself actually looks reasonable where it counts. The threads are all nice and clean and the bore looks to be nicely machined (yes, first thing I did was take it apart before I considered trusting it to be the source of my stopping power), and there's no swarf in evidence as often seems to be the case with stuff like this. Was quite surprised to be honest...I was honestly expecting a lot worse.

Swapped over the pushrod from the original one from the car and then got it installed.



The dust is from later in the day, obviously kept things as clean as possible while the hydraulic work was underway.

Bleeding the system was simple enough, and immediately after the bleed nipples were closed it was obvious we had pretty much resolved the issue. Full brake travel is now a couple of inches...rather than two to four inches of dead travel before anything starts happening. Much better. A quick test run later on revealed that we indeed now have plenty of brakes. Reckon there is a little adjustment still to be done as if you really stand on the brakes she does pull slightly to the left, not apparent in normal driving though.

Figured it was time to have a quick experiment with my foam based wing corner rebuild.

This was after literally five minutes with the grinder to pull the excess material off.



Yes...this is definitely heading down the right road I think...with a bit of work I reckon I should be able to get this pretty close to an invisible repair.



While I had the car outside I figured it was worth having a proper look at the paintwork on the door I'd done in actual daylight.





Given that's the finish straight out the rattle can I'm pretty happy with that. Bit of action with the cutting paste should get us a nice shine there I think.

Hoping I should have the chance to get a better run out tomorrow. Reckon having brakes where the bite point is actually in the same place every time you go to use them should make the driving experience less stressful!

We should be heading out to a show on Sunday, so will probably try to get a little more tidying done tomorrow.
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Old May 31 2019, 07:52 PM   #4925
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Not doing much. Mostly trying to find some no-kill place to take my 2 60lb dogs, that I do NOT want to get rid of. They keep getting loose, because of their size neighbors are scared of them. Every shelter is full everywhere and only taking local dogs.
Our local shelter is high kill. I might of found one in Salem Ma that will take them. It's only a 12 hour drive. I would take them further if it meant they were going to go to a good home. I maybe eating Romen noodle for the next month to pay for it. It would be worth it.
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The shelter in Salem Mass. Won't take them either. I don't know what I'm going to do.
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Wish I could help, My cousin had an animal rescue place, but her neighbors had her closed down due to the noise and smell. I will ask her if she has any knowledge of any other animal rescue places.
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Old Jun 5 2019, 09:41 PM   #4928
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Thanks, I'm willing to transport anywhere in the US.
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Old Jun 6 2019, 06:30 PM   #4929
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I'd drive from anywhere on the continent to help if I wasn't in the UK.

Is there any mileage in seeing if a behavioural specialist could do anything to deal with the issues you've been having? It's astonishing what can be done sometimes. Even if it wasn't a complete solution it might alleviate some of the tension between you and the neighbours in the meantime, showing that you're taking their concerns seriously and trying to resolve things.

Not sure what else to suggest...being on the far side of the planet is unhelpful!
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The neighbors are being patient, the boys should have been gone a month ago. They know we are trying. At this point I don't think a trainer would help much. No one is able to take them on walks, we can't walk that much.

I don't think we can afford a new fence, but I'm getting an estimate.
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The neighbors are being patient, the boys should have been gone a month ago. They know we are trying. At this point I don't think a trainer would help much. No one is able to take them on walks, we can't walk that much.

I don't think we can afford a new fence, but I'm getting an estimate.
Is your (their) yard fenced? If so, there are several ways to defeat "escape artist" dogs, depending on how they're getting out.

1. Fence jumpers: add to the top of the fence.
2. Fence climbers: Add to the top of the fence with fairly loose "chicken wire", proper name poultry netting.. Dog climbs, hits the chicken wire, it bends in toward him, dog cannot climb upside down, or hanging from the wire, and falls. Wire must be wired to the fence wire to prevent dog from going between.
3. Going under the fence: Get what is known as 2"x4" welded wire. It's 4 feet tall, usually on a hundred foot roll. Cut it in half sown the middle, roughly 2 feet, with the cut being done on the center of a 4" side. This leaves a short stub of straight wire to work with. Lay wire in the grass at bottom of fence & join to fence by wrapping the stub around the fence wire. walk on wireto flatten. Once it's down a short time, grass will grow up through it and help hold it. You can run lawn mower over it without catching it in mower if you clip grass extra short when laying wire down & making sure wire is as flat as possible. Dog tries to go under fence, but is now standing on the extra wire. Dog can't dig through wire. Haven't met a dog yet that was smart enough to back up and try to go under the welded wire, almost 2 feet from fence.

I had 5 foot chain link stretched tight. My Mastiff could still go under it. She was defeated by the wire in the grass method.

Hope this helps. I'm in the Missouri Ozarks, and my nearly 80 acres isn't fenced on all sides. I have a Mastiff that would probably not get along with your 2 boys. Bob is very territorial. Besides, they would probably run off in an attempt to get back to you.
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We're going to try another invisible fence, much better quality than the one we had. When they get close to the wire their collars will beep. If they get closer it will vibrate. If they try & cross the wire they will get a mild shock.
The one we had worked great for awhile then got a short & stopped working. It was a very cheap one. We're getting an est. on what a good one will cost. I think it will be a lot more than we can afford. Any other fencing will be even more & we would have to pay someone to put it in. It would have to be at least 6 feet to keep Sam from going over. They don't dig much, but Sam would likely try.
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Was out´╗┐ and about today so only had five minutes for car stuff. Also feeling quite frazzled following some issues with my getting an abusive phone call at 2am in the morning from a former school bully I thought I'd seen the back of 15 years ago.

One occasional gremlin I've found in th´╗┐e van is a rattle and whistle from the nearside lower corner of the windscreen. No idea what could be causing th...oh...yeah´╗┐, that would d´╗┐o it.



Looking closer´╗┐, the trim s´╗┐trip which covers the join between the cab and the coachbuilt body is also sitting about an inch off the bo´╗┐dy.´╗┐



That won´╗┐'t have helped the whistling either.

I had tried to stick the bottom of the rubber windscreen pillar trim down before with sticky pads, however it obviously hasn't worked. The windscreen trims are very important to the look of the T1 van, so it's important they're properly fitted and not all wibbly-wobbly. They take quite an aerodynamic battering too so need to be firmly attached.

No sticky pads this time. Cleaned up the area beneath it and stuck the trim down with a liberal dose of Sikaflex...it ain't coming off again. ´╗┐



Note to self...replace that broken aerial already!

Also refitted´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ the trim above the door...this is a bit ugly just now, but I've got a cleaner which seems to shift the residue left by this pretty effectively so I'll tidy it up shortly. Was going fine until I got some on one of my hand´╗┐s which I'd not noticed, so wound up with fingerprints all over the shop. This strip is also now firmly screwed to the cab now...it ha´╗┐d pulled all the original skinny screws out, so chunkier ones are now in there - though the bond with that sealant should be strong enough that they'll be irrelevant once it's cured fully anyhow.





Having´╗┐ a closer look at the offside one revealed it too coming away at the base, albeit not as badly...so it got the same treatment.



I need to´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ do t´╗┐he same to the trim strip above the door on this side as well, though I'll need to move the van´╗┐ and do that tomorrow as there's currently a´╗┐ hedge in the way.



Be curious´╗┐ to see if it's made a noticeable difference to the wind noise - which isn't actually had fo´╗┐r a van to be honest a´╗┐nyhow. ´╗┐´╗┐

Question to the greater´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ all-knowing hive mind that is this forum...most of the panel joints have a putty like substance under them. Well, save for th´╗┐ose which have been refitted with bathroom sealant anyway. I don't have much of this in stock, and it definitely seems to have a maximum lifespan on the vehicle. Quite a few of these strips need to come off so I can renew it, that's generally how water finds its way into coachbuilt vans. Is there any reasons I shouldn't ´╗┐use (obviously white to reduce the potential for making so much mess) Sikaflex/Tigerseal instead? Yes it's a bit ´╗┐more expensive, but in my experience it's very, very good at what it does and doesn't really "wear out" when exposed to the elements. Sure it could make getting panels apart trickier...but realistically doing everything I can with modern sealants to kee´╗┐p water (and therefore rot) out should make sure I don't need to do that!

So...do I use the "correct" joint mastic or do I go with my instinct and use Sikaflex. Or is that overkill? I usually li´╗┐ke overkill, especially where weather proofing is concerned.


I really need to get a good video of the exhaust ´╗┐note on this thing...It is utterly ridiculous and makes me grin like a five year old. Well driving the van (heck...even sitting in it) makes me grin like a five year old too...but now it goes ´╗┐BrrrrrraaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAM every time m´╗┐y foot goes anywhere beyond 10% throttle.

´╗┐ I'm mature and sensible me...No, really! ´╗┐

´╗┐ Oh...you know me better than that do you...okay fine ´╗┐´╗┐then! ´╗┐
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Today´╗┐ I went outside planning to do something in the garden...instead got sidetracked fiddling with the van. ´╗┐

It became apparent that water had been getting in overnight, once again through the hole left by one of the high level tail lights. So basically lost patience with the ´╗┐sticking plasters I'd been using...time to sort it properly. No idea why they were removed in the first plac´╗┐e, ´╗┐but step one was to put them back in place and properly seal them to the back of the van.



Oh...then remembered´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ I hadn't finished refitting the trim strip over the cab on the offside so went back and did that. Do´╗┐esn't look any different really aside from having a new infill strip visible. ´╗┐



One at the front will be´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ next...that has a rubber seal strip under it which is unevenly sticking out in a few places. That will involve removing (and replacing) about a million screws though, so requires more patience than I could summon today. Will tidy up the face of the van though. ´╗┐

With the lights in place, time to get wiring. No excuse for ´╗┐wiring these clusters untidily, there's a cable guide and everything. ´╗┐



Routing the wiring´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ from the tail lights up to these clusters was tedious but not in any way difficult. Worked first time. ´╗┐



These suckers are really bright actually, thanks to the position the brake and indicators´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ are pretty much focused at any following drivers...so no excuse to say they couldn't see me! Brake lights I may well upgrade with the brightest LED lamps I can find at some point. ´╗┐

Currently it's running standard 21W lamps in the indicators and brake lights, with 10W ones for the runnin´╗┐g lights. ´╗┐

´╗┐Half an hour or so later... ´╗┐



There's not actually a´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ brigh´╗┐tness difference across the sides, it's just an effect of the viewing angle and the op´╗┐tics in the lenses.

Here's just the running lights on. The wire dang´╗┐ling under the back has since been tidied up.



I have decided to just fit´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ a little bit of conduit in the bathroom to conceal the wiring from view´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ in th´╗┐ere f´╗┐´╗┐o´╗┐r now...I can't face dismantling the wall right now. ´╗┐



Half pondering fitting a small´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐´╗┐ shelf level with the change between the flat and angled section of the wall too, which could hide the conduit too...dunno. That's some´╗┐thing to come back to.

Anyhow...we now have a completely functional lighting system - including all the add on bits AutoTrail put on. This plea´╗┐ses my OCD, which always twitched every time I saw the marks left by the formerly missing tail lights.

´╗┐Have decided after speaking to a few people that Sikaflex will be the the route for seal-strip sealing. Yes, it will make any future disassembly an absolute pain in the tail - but the main reason to ever take stuff to bits is because of failed mastic joints...water ingress should be far, far less likely to be an issue with that sort of materials. It's good enough for holding windscree´╗┐ns in after all...

Currently undecided if I'm going to the show down in Luton tomorrow. I'd really like to go, and it would be interesting to see how good a conversation starter the van it. On t´╗┐he other hand, I'm definitely coming down with something and ´╗┐feel rotten...so not sure at the moment. ´╗┐

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Invisible fence not bad as I thought, about 2,400$. Still more than I can afford.
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Are there any teenagers in your area that you could hire to take the dogs for walks, if you're unable to go?
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I was lucky enough to be able to get the van along to a classic car show last weekend... haven't got around to posting it up here as the five image per post limit means I've had to split things over several posts...so apologies for the spam...given a lot of folks here are in the US, hopefully some things here will be different enough to still make things interesting for you.

Below the dotted line starts my report from last Sunday...

-- -- --

Sunday saw me - despite feeling like death - heading down to the Luton Festival of Transport with the van.

This was definitely the biggest show I've been to so far. Don't reckon I saw a quarter of what was actually there...didn't take a massive number of photos, trying not to spend the whole day looking through a viewfinder.

Here's what I did snap though (in no particular order).









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I spy warning lights from an early 80s DAF coach.







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All just straight as they came off the phone, so apologies if the lighting is a bit off... though the camera on this thing still never ceases to astonish me. Never bother with a separate one these days unless I'm specifically going for artsy stuff where I'm deliberately using film.

On the subject of film, was given another SLR by a friend today. My Konica AutoReflex T-3 has now been joined by an Olympus OM10.



Not quite as versatile, but it's a good bit smaller (and about half the weight it feels like!) than the Konica...so reckon it may see a little more use at events like this where the weight of the Konica would have become tiresome after a while. Here they are side by side.



Looking forward to having a proper play around with this and getting some film through it.

I have to admit to finding the way the makers of the flash have used the light from the flash ready indicator to backlight the exposure compensation dial. This just looks fantastic to me.



Have wanted a flash with some degree of control built in for a while now so that was of nearly as much interest as the camera...though they're a thing I'm exceptionally poor at saying no to anyway, never mind a nice one like this.
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Hey, you accidently flipped most of the photos! Steering wheels are on the wrong side! LOL
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I've checked with a bit of random pipe that I had laying around, and the rigid plastic line running to the Xantia clutch fluid reservoir is a snug fit inside 3/16" hose as attached to the spare reservoir I have laying around...so I'm pretty sure that my long term plan here is to relocate it to somewhere sensible. The gap between the air conditioning receiver and inner wing looks pretty much made to measure, the bolt which secures the air con liquid line should do perfectly to secure the bracket to.

That's a task for next week though when I've got the patience to deal with it. The suggestion has been made that it might be worthwhile to try blasting the back of the engine with a hose pipe to see if the cap might then be dislodged...Not a bad shout actually as the engine bay is due a clean anyhow.


Last time I was out in the Invacar I got caught in a moderately heavy rain shower which did a really good job of demonstrating how laughably lacking the weatherproofing was. Especially around the windscreen...which is a pain as due to the driving position being quite far forward the water from there drips right on your knees. The main issue here being that the seals have both perished and shrunk. As a result of that the water seeps in between the glass and the seal, there doesn't seem to be much that actually gets in around between the seal and bodywork.



The rear windscreen doesn't seem to be so bad - most likely due to the reverse rake of it keeping it mostly dry and any water that does get in tending to just run down the bulkhead. There was however a big gap where I assume there should be a plug at the end of the seal.



This gap looks far bigger from inside.



The long term solution of course will be to get a new set of seals. However I don't have those on hand currently and I'd like to be able to use the car this week given that I seem to have a lot of cars with gremlins this week...so I can see the Invacar getting a bit more use than it's been used to up to now. Being weatherproof is likely to make it rather more attractive to drive. So I'd like to do something quick.

Sikaflex to the rescue I think!

I got out some (decent) masking tape to keep the stuff where I wanted it, and set about giving the seals all a good coating to fill all the cracks in the rubber and about a millimetre overlap with the glass and the bodywork...so it should hopefully both keep the water out and the windows in.





The windscreen used to have a gap similar to the one I pictured earlier on the rear one, but it was halfway up the offside of the screen - that's now covered up as well. So that should be one less ingress point.



Likewise the rear windscreen is now gap-free.



While I'm thinking about it, here's a better shot of the interior as it appears now I've got the freshly painted panel above the screen in place and the pillar trims also painted. Think it looks period appropriate and the black is a nice contrast to the light blue.



Yes, there are some paint runs in there I need to get tidied up. The switches you can see sitting on the dash are these...



These will be for the electric fan I intend to add to the heating system (demister switch seemed suitable for that, and this one will match those already on the dash), and in future to provide me with a low brake fluid warning light (the switch provides a test feature for the lamp itself). Haven't 100% decided exactly where I'll put them on the dash yet, but probably over by the handbrake most likely.

Masking tape was removed when the sealant was about 75% cured to leave a nice clean edge without leaving streamers of gooey sealant or tearing half of it off with the tape.







Will attack it with the hose tomorrow if it's not raining and see what the results are like...Fingers crossed my knees will remain dry next time I have the car out in the rain.

The sealant itself can be removed easily from the paintwork so long as it's not fully set by using those wipes intended to go over a panel with immediately prior to painting. Also useful for getting it off your hand when you hadn't spotted there was a hole in your glove, so you ended up with a glove finger entirely full of sealant. Note to self: Use sturdier gloves next time...
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Been spending just about all my time looking for new work Since my last job closed without notice. Law suit has been filed since they were required by law ( if they had more than 100 workers ) to give 60 days notice of the plant closing, which they did not give. I suspect they will keep this tied up in the courts for years. (They will have to pay all of us 60 days wages and the Health care costs to cover 60 days if/when we win) But I found a new job which actually pays more than my old one, but is much more of a commute, 37.5 miles ( 60 kilometers ) each way, old job was only 12 miles/19 1/2 kilometers
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