A Meeting of Minds - An Anne McCaffrey Discussion Forum  

Go Back   A Meeting of Minds - An Anne McCaffrey Discussion Forum > The Anne McCaffrey Collection > Crystal Singer and Brainships

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Jun 23 2021, 12:19 PM   #1
Critteranne
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Maryland
Pronouns: She/her
Fan of: Dragonflight
Now Reading: Aurora Floyd by Mary Elizabeth Braddon
Default Crystal Singer Question

First, I’m glad to find a forum dedicated just to the Crystal Singer and Brain Ship books!

Also, I was today old when I learned that the first Crystal Singer book is categorized as a young adult book by Wikipedia. It was published as a young adult book in the UK (hardcover by Severn House). I’ve always associated it with the Michael Whelan cover, but I think that was used starting from the first paperback edition.

I know the young adult field was different back in 1982, but that seems an unusual categorization for the book. Killashandra was young, but she wasn’t “young adult book” young. I can see that the book could be considered suitable for teenaged readers who are SF fans, but it seems aimed more at adults.

What do you think?

Also, can the original short stories be found in anthologies?
Critteranne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 29 2021, 02:48 PM   #2
Cheryl
Master Archivist
 
Cheryl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland, USA
Pronouns: She/her
Fan of: Pern!
Now Reading: Relentless Moon by MRKowal
Default Re: Crystal Singer Question

Did YA really exist as a marketing category when the Crystal Singer books were published? I feel like they predate it.

I agree that it seems an odd fit for CS - while they're fine for teens to read, the main character is older than the typical age range for YA, and it's not really a coming-of-age story, which are what I expect of a YA book (along with age-appropriateness and perhaps less complex plot and grammar/language, and often on the shorter side of novels).

The original shorts can be found in anthologies. There were four short stories published in Continuum 1 through 4, edited by Roger Elwood. There was also a graphic novel adaptation of the first short story in Starstream #3, also edited by Elwood. There some interesting differences between the shorts and the first book, the most notable (and only one I recall offhand) is that Killashandra dies in the final short.
__________________
Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad:
Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series
The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works
McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.
Cheryl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 29 2021, 03:18 PM   #3
Critteranne
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Maryland
Pronouns: She/her
Fan of: Dragonflight
Now Reading: Aurora Floyd by Mary Elizabeth Braddon
Default Re: Crystal Singer Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheryl View Post
Did YA really exist as a marketing category when the Crystal Singer books were published? I feel like they predate it.
I think YA existed more as a concept rather than a marketing category. While industry insiders used the term, no one else knew what it meant. When I was young, my library had a separate section for books for older readers (like House of Stairs and Lisa, Bright and Dark), but I don't remember what they called it. Most stores didn't have a separate YA section or even a "Teens" section. That probably led to some interesting purchases...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheryl View Post
I agree that it seems an odd fit for CS - while they're fine for teens to read, the main character is older than the typical age range for YA, and it's not really a coming-of-age story, which are what I expect of a YA book (along with age-appropriateness and perhaps less complex plot and grammar/language, and often on the shorter side of novels).
Although Killashandra is sort of right out of college, it's not even a "new adult" novel. But then, people had different ideas of "teen" and "YA" books then (and "new adult" didn't exist as a concept yet). Beyond the "problem novels," there were books like the Cherry Ames series, written for teens but starting adults who had just started an exciting career. Those books were easier reads than adult books. With today's young adult books, it depends. Some are short and simple, some are really long, and some even use more experimental writing styles (like blank verse).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheryl View Post
The original shorts can be found in anthologies. There were four short stories published in Continuum 1 through 4, edited by Roger Elwood. There was also a graphic novel adaptation of the first short story in Starstream #3, also edited by Elwood. There some interesting differences between the shorts and the first book, the most notable (and only one I recall offhand) is that Killashandra dies in the final short.
Eek! Still, I'll have to look for those at the used bookstore. They have a lot of anthologies.
Critteranne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 30 2021, 04:17 AM   #4
Hans
Master Archivist
 
Hans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Netherlands

Fan of: Pern!
Default Re: Crystal Singer Question

I have the original shorts in soft and hardcover I'd be willing to sell Critteranne. You are in the UK, right? I am in the Netherlands. Maybe postage might be affordable... Let me know if you are interested and I will try to find what I have.



And there's also a (much altered) comic book version of the story. Not sure but you might find a Collector's Highlight about that here. If I remember correctly it's in Starstream.
__________________
Hans, also known as Elrhan, Master Archivist

Visit The Pern Museum & Archives for all your Pern and Anne McCaffrey News and Resources!
The Pern Museum & Archives is the home of the Pern Encyclopedia and the Pern Bloodlines.
Hans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 30 2021, 10:10 AM   #5
Critteranne
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Maryland
Pronouns: She/her
Fan of: Dragonflight
Now Reading: Aurora Floyd by Mary Elizabeth Braddon
Default Re: Crystal Singer Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans View Post
I have the original shorts in soft and hardcover I'd be willing to sell Critteranne. You are in the UK, right? I am in the Netherlands. Maybe postage might be affordable... Let me know if you are interested and I will try to find what I have.
I'm in Maryland, so I'm sure the postage would be awful. And still "constrained," from what I can tell.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans View Post
And there's also a (much altered) comic book version of the story. Not sure but you might find a Collector's Highlight about that here. If I remember correctly it's in Starstream.
I'll look into it. I noticed it was from Whitman Publishing. I loved their reprint comics, but I'm wondering what their SF comics would be like. They were the publishers of the Gold Key Star Trek comics (the first Star Trek comics), and many ST fans don't like them except as a curiosity. They're not really "canon." (It turns out that many of the artists and writers for the comics had been given publicity stills and basic information but had not seen the show!)
__________________
--------

Check out my (few) articles on Medium.
Critteranne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 30 2021, 05:46 PM   #6
GinnyStar
Dolphineer
Craftmaster
 
GinnyStar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Wausau, Wisconsin, USA -- CST or CDT
Pronouns: SheShe
Fan of: PShPern BB, Tia., and Oth
Now Reading: MHOP, Books Jerry Apps, Too Many to Post
Default Re: Crystal Singer Question

Well I don't recall how much bbooks ran me postabe and ship and hndling, from many year back, when I got hold of two non Pern Anne NcCaffrey book, - their dustjackets, I have order stuff offline but its been a while, I am following this thread,, bother Star Trek and Anne McCaffrey, and a reminder, taht I need to find new copy of a few softcovers in this book, Crystal Singer is the one I am looking for, but with out my sight, I like the cover, and I do loan out some of my books to friends, I have to ttwo in hardback just not the first one, and also the DShip that Sang also, if someone wat to post me a link in the right way, I be greatful. Sorry for my ranbling, but I am still learning how use both JJAWS and Google together for let me post new stuff, and ansanswer old ones too.
__________________
Lover s s, s and friends
Lover of and beads,
http://www.change.org/profiles/GinnyStar
Dragoncave GinnyStar2
Jellied Dragons
Lair of Dragons
http://dragcave.net/user/GinnyStar2
Thanks! Others: None at this time
WIP http://archiveofourown.org/works/252259
http://www.daisy.org/learning-difficulties
GinnyStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 6 2021, 04:11 PM   #7
Bristol
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Pronouns: He/him
Fan of: Dragonflight
Now Reading: Dragon's Code
Default Re: Crystal Singer Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by GinnyStar View Post
Well I don't recall how much bbooks ran me postabe and ship and hndling, from many year back, when I got hold of two non Pern Anne NcCaffrey book, - their dustjackets, I have order stuff offline but its been a while, I am following this thread,, bother Star Trek and Anne McCaffrey, and a reminder, taht I need to find new copy of a few softcovers in this book, Crystal Singer is the one I am looking for, but with out my sight, I like the cover, and I do loan out some of my books to friends, I have to ttwo in hardback just not the first one, and also the DShip that Sang also, if someone wat to post me a link in the right way, I be greatful. Sorry for my ranbling, but I am still learning how use both JJAWS and Google together for let me post new stuff, and ansanswer old ones too.
Not to worry. It is doing a better job than most voicemail transcribing services.
Bristol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 26 2021, 10:19 PM   #8
BD1
Member
 
BD1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: USA

Fan of: the Pern books
Default Re: Crystal Singer Question

I once read that in a version of the story, Lars Dahl was hired by the Heptite Guild to kill Killashandra Ree!
__________________
http://dragcave.net/kathyh371
BD1 is nu online   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27 2021, 08:33 PM   #9
GinnyStar
Dolphineer
Craftmaster
 
GinnyStar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Wausau, Wisconsin, USA -- CST or CDT
Pronouns: SheShe
Fan of: PShPern BB, Tia., and Oth
Now Reading: MHOP, Books Jerry Apps, Too Many to Post
Default Re: Crystal Singer Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristol View Post
Not to worry. It is doing a better job than most voicemail transcribing services.
That is was the comment a non AMC friend was telling me, bought some of them at a second hand bookshop that is no longer in business, I have only read one smsa few of the e-books, before my sight is now gone, working to see if I can gget a different short story collection read by a AI voice, she who won't be spoken so I don't loose my recording of my show tbhat I am listening to.

My memory works funny, I can understand a lot of differnt things just tryhing to put then step to step together is when I loose a step in tthe order. More later
__________________
Lover s s, s and friends
Lover of and beads,
http://www.change.org/profiles/GinnyStar
Dragoncave GinnyStar2
Jellied Dragons
Lair of Dragons
http://dragcave.net/user/GinnyStar2
Thanks! Others: None at this time
WIP http://archiveofourown.org/works/252259
http://www.daisy.org/learning-difficulties
GinnyStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 1 2021, 12:40 PM   #10
Cheryl
Master Archivist
 
Cheryl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland, USA
Pronouns: She/her
Fan of: Pern!
Now Reading: Relentless Moon by MRKowal
Default Re: Crystal Singer Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by BD1 View Post
I once read that in a version of the story, Lars Dahl was hired by the Heptite Guild to kill Killashandra Ree!
I recall that Lars was hired by Optheria (not the Heptite guild) to injure her, to prove the rumored fast-healing possessed by crystal singers (and thereby prove her to be a true singer as well). It wouldn't make sense for him to have been hired to kill her, because they needed her to repair their organ before the big festival. Which is why Lars then kidnapped her for political reasons to delay the fixing of the organ.

The Heptite Guild has never wanted her dead, singers are too rare and valuable to them!
__________________
Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad:
Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series
The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works
McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.
Cheryl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 2 2021, 09:24 PM   #11
GinnyStar
Dolphineer
Craftmaster
 
GinnyStar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Wausau, Wisconsin, USA -- CST or CDT
Pronouns: SheShe
Fan of: PShPern BB, Tia., and Oth
Now Reading: MHOP, Books Jerry Apps, Too Many to Post
Default Re: Crystal Singer Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheryl View Post
I recall that Lars was hired by Optheria (not the Heptite guild) to injure her, to prove the rumored fast-healing possessed by crystal singers (and thereby prove her to be a true singer as well). It wouldn't make sense for him to have been hired to kill her, because they needed her to repair their organ before the big festival. Which is why Lars then kidnapped her for political reasons to delay the fixing of the organ.

The Heptite Guild has never wanted her dead, singers are too rare and valuable to them!
That is right, his 'original' work, was lovely to his folks in the Islands, not on the Mainland,

Also the organ 'was' the insterment that was their, His sound ed good on a 22 string, insterment, I think or something like that,,

His group was trieing to stop the 'brainwashing' along with the senserary program. even with a smaller one, which , they where abel to fix so it sstop, on the main one, but left the main other and the broken crystals were used to help get passed the gard that tested for a tttrace mineral that a BB ship was not able to used. I am just saying, that Lar's folks in the group used the broken ones to good useto help change their 'wanted to stay their, and help out. which was KKher second job from the FSP just saying mmy mind is adding odds and ends, and I hope to be able to listen /read more soon, working on ggetting a differnt reader/player to listen to more.
__________________
Lover s s, s and friends
Lover of and beads,
http://www.change.org/profiles/GinnyStar
Dragoncave GinnyStar2
Jellied Dragons
Lair of Dragons
http://dragcave.net/user/GinnyStar2
Thanks! Others: None at this time
WIP http://archiveofourown.org/works/252259
http://www.daisy.org/learning-difficulties
GinnyStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Crystal Singer 'Fanzine' Becky Book Collector's Meeting Room 20 May 14 2019 10:27 PM
Collecting Highlight (54) - Questar magazine with Crystal Singer story adaptation Hans Collecting Highlights Archives 24 Oct 31 2011 02:30 PM
This is Topanya Melora Crystal Singer Lady Maelin Exhibit Hall 23 May 8 2006 12:56 PM
Crystal Singer and Brainship book and story lists Cheryl Crystal Singer and Brainships 0 Nov 26 2004 09:17 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

ds and characters based on Anne McCaffrey’s fiction are copyright © Anne McCaffrey 1967-2008, all rights reserved, and used bA Meeting of Minds forum owned by Cheryl B. Miller.
All references to worly permission of the author.