Freedom: The 'bad' guys - A Meeting of Minds

Shani · Nov 27 2004, 03:03 AM

Which of the more unlikeable characters got to you the most on Botany and why?

Platinum · Nov 27 2004, 09:13 PM

Aarens got to me! He was whiney selfish and all to sure of himself!

AnnMarie · Nov 27 2004, 09:43 PM

I'm with Plat. I DETEST Arens!

He'd be my first canidate to send to a long walk alone at night~!

granath · Nov 28 2004, 05:13 AM

Aarens. Xenophobic twit.

LisaMaria · Nov 28 2004, 07:22 AM

Aarens, Arnie, Janet Bollinger were all pains. But weren't there military types that Zainal called "brass heads" that were trying to take over the running of Botany, they cut into Chuck's responsibilites, and Zainal and Kris didn't like how they took over and did some things?

Vilkacis · Nov 28 2004, 12:33 PM

Beggs; thae aide to Ray Scott with the unwinningly officious way with a clipboard - he really got on my nerves

Also the obvious one, Aarens.

Linmag · Nov 30 2004, 01:04 PM

Aarens and Arnie were particularly unpleasant characters.

**Cheryl** · Nov 30 2004, 02:41 PM

Aarens is the main one I remember, so he must have been one of the very worst! I have a vague memory of Arnie as a separate ijit, but I remember having a hard time at times keeping the two of them straight, given their similar names and levels of idiocy.

AnnMarie · Nov 30 2004, 11:09 PM

Arnie was just a perv. Easy enough to deal with pervs, if you don't have any bleeding heart liberals going on about convicts' rights.....

Arens was almost a total loss of human space. Unfortunately, to make use of the skills he DID possess and were needed....he had to be kept intact.

Dux · Dec 4 2004, 09:52 PM

Aarons!!

Lara · Dec 8 2004, 12:42 PM

Aarens, definitely!

Faren · Dec 12 2004, 02:08 AM

Aarens is definitely the bad guy on Botany.

Topaz the Golden · Jan 6 2005, 09:41 PM

Aarens!!

He just got on my nerves. For the simlpe fact that he thought he was God give to women. If I was there I would have left him on the cliff with the homing devices.

Blessed be Everyone
Michelle

Saphirdrache · Feb 21 2005, 03:10 PM

Dick Aarens....
perfect name really. And at the top of the list for worst possible candidate for humanity's continuing genepool. yik! I was perpetually wishing he'd find himself unceremoniously dumped in one of the valleys the Turs were living in, lol.

Lenvec
Oh how envy corrupteth the soul! And in his case, the mind.

yeah, the guy with the clipboard... i wanted to take that clipboard and "insert tab A into slot B" and wish him well with his newest accoutrement.

Dragonsqueen · Feb 28 2005, 08:16 PM

Man, this Aarens guy is really getting hit, I think I really need to read those books again, cause I can't even remember him! Gosh, I've got some catching up to do!

Saphirdrache · Mar 2 2005, 01:06 AM

My sympathies ahead of time to you Dragonsqueen, lol. Once you get the first nibble of Aaren's style, you'll be longing for something to gargle his aftertaste out.

sassie · Mar 3 2005, 07:46 AM

I think the world and his wife all hate Aarens but to paraphrase Jessica Rabbit
"I'm not a bad person it's the way I was drawn"
In Aarens case- written!!!
I wonder if he's an amalgamation of the worst aspects of several people or whether poor Anne does know someone this disagreeable!!!!

Saphirdrache · Mar 3 2005, 01:37 PM

Miss Anne most likely knew someone pretty darned close to Aarens IRL. I've had the misfortune of at least one like him in my life, *shudder* horrible man... So it stands to reason she's probably run into a good example of Aaren's type of insufferable nature.

Lily · Mar 3 2005, 04:25 PM

What irritated me was that Aarens never learned. He kept on and on thinking he was G*d's gift to women
Could a man in real life really NOT get the message quite quickly?
I would hate to think he wouldnt

AnnMarie · Mar 3 2005, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lily

What irritated me was that Aarens never learned. He kept on and on thinking he was G*d's gift to women
Could a man in real life really NOT get the message quite quickly?
I would hate to think he wouldnt

Lily, I hate to tell you, darling... the answer in a word is YES.

There is one guy I used to work with who is an Arens...was when I worked with him ten years ago, still is, always will be. And he's been told to his face he's the only one who thinks he's gods gift to females. Men like that hear what they want to hear, see what they want to see...and think they're the center of the universe!

Dawn · Mar 5 2005, 02:45 AM

Aarens!

Dux · Mar 14 2005, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saphirdrache

Dick Aarens....
perfect name really. .

I never even noticed what his full name really said.

Jax · Mar 14 2005, 10:11 PM

What does his whole name say Dux??

I always thought it was his first name that was the fitting part, did I miss something?

Dux · Mar 21 2005, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jax

What does his whole name say Dux??

I always thought it was his first name that was the fitting part, did I miss something?

Nope you didn't miss anything. It's the first name.

Larra Dragonrider · Jul 8 2005, 10:52 PM

heheh. he's the kinda guy who you wanna bash his brains in with someting dull and painful.

i really just wanted to kick arnie's perverted *ss out for a night with the crawlers.

as a book i just read said, "we dont cure your body, we cure your perversity."

Ingerid · Jul 17 2005, 12:49 PM

I also think Arens is less than likeable, but the one I dislike even more is Balenquah. He puts them all in danger when they go to Barevi, and he allways look for the darkest side to look at.

geishagirl · Jul 25 2005, 11:02 PM

DICK Aarens is my least favorite. I have often wondered if Anne formed his character from someone she knows

nightrider · Aug 21 2005, 07:16 PM

I'm with Ingerid, Aarons is a pervey jerk but Balenquah is dangerous. He endangered the Barevi mission which ticked me off, but then he kept trying to feel Kris up, that made me positively livid.

***Hans*** · Aug 22 2005, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geishagirl

DICK Aarens is my least favorite. I have often wondered if Anne formed his character from someone she knows

hmmm....

Myt · Feb 5 2006, 12:33 AM

probably. I've met someone like that.

Nov 27 2004, 03:03 AM	#1
Shani Inactive Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Australia Gender: F	Freedom: The 'bad' guys Which of the more unlikeable characters got to you the most on Botany and why?

Nov 27 2004, 09:13 PM	#2
Platinum Inactive Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newcastle, England Gender: F	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Aarens got to me! He was whiney selfish and all to sure of himself!

Nov 27 2004, 09:43 PM	#3
AnnMarie Dragonrider Weyrwoman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: On the Edge Gender: F Fan of: Pern and Talent Now Reading: The Name of the Rose	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys I'm with Plat. I DETEST Arens! He'd be my first canidate to send to a long walk alone at night~!

Nov 28 2004, 05:13 AM	#4
granath Talent Tower Prime Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Proud Mom! Gender: F Fan of: Afra Lyon Now Reading: Faye Upton: Dragonchoice 3	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Aarens. Xenophobic twit. __________________ Decaf coffee is an oxymoron. Instant coffee is an abomination. Give me the real thing and nobody gets hurt. "Do. Or do not. There is no try" -- Yoda VP of the Afra Lyon fan club!

Nov 28 2004, 07:22 AM	#5
LisaMaria Inactive Join Date: Nov 2004	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Aarens, Arnie, Janet Bollinger were all pains. But weren't there military types that Zainal called "brass heads" that were trying to take over the running of Botany, they cut into Chuck's responsibilites, and Zainal and Kris didn't like how they took over and did some things?

Nov 28 2004, 12:33 PM	#6
Vilkacis Inactive Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Gender: Female	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Beggs; thae aide to Ray Scott with the unwinningly officious way with a clipboard - he really got on my nerves Also the obvious one, Aarens.

Nov 30 2004, 01:04 PM	#7
Linmag Inactive Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Gloucester UK	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Aarens and Arnie were particularly unpleasant characters.

Nov 30 2004, 02:41 PM	#8
Cheryl Master Archivist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern! Now Reading: Paladin of Souls (Bujold)	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Aarens is the main one I remember, so he must have been one of the very worst! I have a vague memory of Arnie as a separate ijit, but I remember having a hard time at times keeping the two of them straight, given their similar names and levels of idiocy. __________________ Visit one of the other sites of Cheryl's Anne McCaffrey Triad: Sariel's Guide to Pern: a detailed guide to the series The Many Works of Anne McCaffrey: largest fan site about Anne and ALL of her works McCaffrey Quest: annual trivia contest.

Nov 30 2004, 11:09 PM	#9
AnnMarie Dragonrider Weyrwoman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: On the Edge Gender: F Fan of: Pern and Talent Now Reading: The Name of the Rose	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Arnie was just a perv. Easy enough to deal with pervs, if you don't have any bleeding heart liberals going on about convicts' rights..... Arens was almost a total loss of human space. Unfortunately, to make use of the skills he DID possess and were needed....he had to be kept intact.

Dec 4 2004, 09:52 PM	#10
Dux Inactive Join Date: Nov 2004	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Aarons!!

Dec 8 2004, 12:42 PM	#11
Lara Inactive Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Annecy, France Gender: F Fan of: Pern,Petaybee,Freedom Now Reading: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Aarens, definitely!

Dec 12 2004, 02:08 AM	#12
Faren Inactive Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Florida Fan of: Talent and Freedom Series Now Reading: Invisible Prey, John Sandford	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Aarens is definitely the bad guy on Botany.

Jan 6 2005, 09:41 PM	#13
Topaz the Golden Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: new windsor, ny (between whats real and fanstasy Gender: F Fan of: all of them Now Reading: anything I can get my hands on	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Aarens!! He just got on my nerves. For the simlpe fact that he thought he was God give to women. If I was there I would have left him on the cliff with the homing devices. Blessed be Everyone Michelle

Feb 21 2005, 03:10 PM	#14
Saphirdrache Inactive Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern, Lunzie, Freedom etc Now Reading: Uller Uprising	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Dick Aarens.... perfect name really. And at the top of the list for worst possible candidate for humanity's continuing genepool. yik! I was perpetually wishing he'd find himself unceremoniously dumped in one of the valleys the Turs were living in, lol. Lenvec Oh how envy corrupteth the soul! And in his case, the mind. yeah, the guy with the clipboard... i wanted to take that clipboard and "insert tab A into slot B" and wish him well with his newest accoutrement.

Feb 28 2005, 08:16 PM	#15
Dragonsqueen Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On the sea, NZ born! Gender: F	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Man, this Aarens guy is really getting hit, I think I really need to read those books again, cause I can't even remember him! Gosh, I've got some catching up to do!

Mar 2 2005, 01:06 AM	#16
Saphirdrache Inactive Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern, Lunzie, Freedom etc Now Reading: Uller Uprising	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys My sympathies ahead of time to you Dragonsqueen, lol. Once you get the first nibble of Aaren's style, you'll be longing for something to gargle his aftertaste out.

Mar 3 2005, 07:46 AM	#17
sassie Inactive Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol U.K. but normally in which book i'm reading at the time Gender: F	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys I think the world and his wife all hate Aarens but to paraphrase Jessica Rabbit "I'm not a bad person it's the way I was drawn" In Aarens case- written!!! I wonder if he's an amalgamation of the worst aspects of several people or whether poor Anne does know someone this disagreeable!!!!

Mar 3 2005, 01:37 PM	#18
Saphirdrache Inactive Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas, USA Gender: F Fan of: Pern, Lunzie, Freedom etc Now Reading: Uller Uprising	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Miss Anne most likely knew someone pretty darned close to Aarens IRL. I've had the misfortune of at least one like him in my life, shudder horrible man... So it stands to reason she's probably run into a good example of Aaren's type of insufferable nature.

Mar 3 2005, 04:25 PM	#19
Lily Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wellywood, New Zealand Gender: F	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys What irritated me was that Aarens never learned. He kept on and on thinking he was G*d's gift to women Could a man in real life really NOT get the message quite quickly? I would hate to think he wouldnt __________________ Coffee: Chocolate: Men: Some things are just better rich

Mar 5 2005, 02:45 AM	#21
Dawn Inactive Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oklahoma, USA	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys Aarens!

Mar 14 2005, 10:11 PM	#23
Jax Talent Latent Talent Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Brisbane Gender: F Fan of: DDawn 1st read, love all Now Reading: MagicKingdom4salesold ArtemisF	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys What does his whole name say Dux?? I always thought it was his first name that was the fitting part, did I miss something?

Jul 8 2005, 10:52 PM	#25
Larra Dragonrider Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On PERN... Gender: F	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys heheh. he's the kinda guy who you wanna bash his brains in with someting dull and painful. i really just wanted to kick arnie's perverted *ss out for a night with the crawlers. as a book i just read said, "we dont cure your body, we cure your perversity."

Jul 17 2005, 12:49 PM	#26
Ingerid Inactive Join Date: Feb 2005 Gender: F	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys I also think Arens is less than likeable, but the one I dislike even more is Balenquah. He puts them all in danger when they go to Barevi, and he allways look for the darkest side to look at.

Jul 25 2005, 11:02 PM	#27
geishagirl Inactive Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Gender: F	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys DICK Aarens is my least favorite. I have often wondered if Anne formed his character from someone she knows

Aug 21 2005, 07:16 PM	#28
nightrider Inactive Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South Lyon, MI Gender: F	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys I'm with Ingerid, Aarons is a pervey jerk but Balenquah is dangerous. He endangered the Barevi mission which ticked me off, but then he kept trying to feel Kris up, that made me positively livid.

Feb 5 2006, 12:33 AM	#30
Myt Crafter Senior Apprentice Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wherever is home right now. Gender: F Fan of: Dragonriders of Pern Now Reading: Something, always something...	Re: Freedom: The 'bad' guys probably. I've met someone like that.

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