Art: Fandarel

[GinnyStar]

Originally Posted by jube

BTW I always thought of Fax as Pern's Frankenstein-in-the-making. He's the only monster there, that I can think of.

Another one would be the Lord Holder from DE/RSR who didn't get his hold ready either.

[Priscilla]

Originally Posted by jube

Okay ..... the boxing ring is over that-away if you two want to use it

BTW I always thought of Fax as Pern's Frankenstein-in-the-making. He's the only monster there, that I can think of.

OH NO! No boxing ring here! However, in honor of Andre, maybe Cheryl would set up a "squared circle"?!

[Cavatica]

Originally Posted by ElectricDragon

Since when is spraying lighter fluid someplace you think you see smoke a bright idea?

Since I learned to breathe frakking fire, that's when.

But Maelin's a nice lady and I won't pursue this fracas to its final stupidity. Not here, anyway. Y'all let me know when you get that boxing ring built.

[Hans]

Originally Posted by Golden Talisath

Great work, Maelin!
I know I'm jumping out of topic here, but what happened to that portrait of F'lar we were promised?

I'm sorry, that portrait still has to be posted as it is the next installment in the Pern Museum series.

I'll do that soon. Promised!

[Golden Talisath]

Originally Posted by Hans

I'm sorry, that portrait still has to be posted as it is the next installment in the Pern Museum series.

I'll do that soon. Promised!

Great, can't wait!

[ElectricDragon]

Originally Posted by Cavatica

Since I learned to breathe frakking fire, that's when.

But Maelin's a nice lady and I won't pursue this fracas to its final stupidity. Not here, anyway. Y'all let me know when you get that boxing ring built.

[Lady Maelin]

Electric Dragon…My comments are offered constructively and my benediction to continue the good work is certainly not sarcastic. I'd like to think we can trade competing visions openly as we have in the past with no hard feelings or misconceptions courtesy of intrusive third-parties.

And, BTW, this work is a fine tribute to Andre the Giant who was at his best in the Princess Bride (probably the most humorously quotable film ever). Who knew he had such comedic timing? And so enjoyable that he did!

P.S. Looking again at the dimensions of your image (HxW) I can appreciate the space limitations...good point.
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Since when is spraying lighter fluid someplace you think you see smoke a bright idea?

I've paid Maelin many a compliment in the past and offered many a critique and never got the impression she couldn't handle either. If her memory is so short that she can't remember compliments given, or her skin so thin she can't handle a critique, that's for her and I to resolve. From what I've seen her memory's fine and her skin's plenty tough. Regardless, it's none of your business.

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Well ED… I do invite comments from MoMers, on the artwork I have put up on occasion…and occasionally I get some critical comments from some of the MoMers. Mostly it’s the kind that say *I thought his/her hair was a different color…or that he/she doesn’t quite look the they thought they did in their own mind…but nothing so severe, YET, that I have felt like I was being battered or abused.

You and I have many times disagreed about what a Pern character might look like…but we have seemed to be able to keep an open mind, or at least to agree that we do indeed pleasantly disagree.

I can see where some MoMers might think you were somewhat overly critical this time with this portrait…but from you, in my opinion, that seems to be somewhat normal. I have learned in the time you have been here on MoM, that you are innately critical by nature…and have your own very definite opinions, and that you like to share them on a grand scale.

It really is too bad that this portrait has seemed to stir up such vigorous controversy.

I believe that Cavatica is a very well meaning and caring person…who has enjoyed several pieces of my artwork in the past, as I have also very much enjoyed hers.

I have to admit that to me, her comments towards your criticism of my portrait, were to put it mildly… hilariously put and meant somewhat lightly to be in my defense.

As a member I do believe it* is her business* as it is any MoMers business, to be able to make comments….that’s what we do here !!!

I am somewhat saddened to see that you have become so upset by all of this. Since we are all on a members forum, it does seem to me that we all have the right as members to comment on any given post…especially when we believe, in our opinions, that another member has been slighted in some manner, to be able to come to their defense as Cavatica did mine. I am thankful I have all the wonderful supporters as I do here on MoM.

I don’t believe this is anything to go to the *RING* over…blood is hard to clean up and the paperwork is horrendous…or better said…I don’t think this is anything to go to the mattresses over…leave the gun, take the cannoli.

[spacedog]

'Nuff said from the lady herself.

[jube]

Was going to say something further but I realised that hubby was answering questions from WitW and had forgottten to log off. Ooops sorry honey bunny *chuckles* - okay I think I will just go and hide in the nearest corner and stop looking like a lobster instead of human



Psst .... think that ring's been taken down and thrown on the scrap-heap so shake hands and be down with it, okay folks.

[GinnyStar]

Originally Posted by Cavatica

Since I learned to breathe fire, that's when.<sinp>Y'all let me know when you get that boxing ring built.

We could add one to herehttp://forums.srellim.org/showthread.php?t=3921 at MoM's HQ I am sure we can find a way to do it . and We got lots other folks add on there own twist to thing.

*Heading over to MoM HQ to make sure we got the space, and the fire system can hand it*

[StevenB]

Wow! Another fantastic masterpiece from our very own master artist. Thanks for showing it to us Lady Maelin. I love it.

Originally Posted by Anneli

Great picture
One distraction for me - I confess the first thing I thought when I saw the flame thrower apparently going into one side of his head and out the other was "so what under the double moons is Frankenstein doing on Pern?"

I noticed the flame thrower too. But are you going to tell this guy he ought to stand somewhere else to have his portrait taken as he towers over you?

[Cavatica]

Originally Posted by Lady Maelin

I believe that Cavatica is a very well meaning and caring person…who has enjoyed several pieces of my artwork in the past, as I have also very much enjoyed hers.

I have to admit that to me, her comments towards your criticism of my portrait, were to put it mildly… hilariously put and meant somewhat lightly to be in my defense.

Somewhat.

As a member I do believe it* is her business* as it is any MoMers business, to be able to make comments….that’s what we do here !!!

I am somewhat saddened to see that you have become so upset by all of this. Since we are all on a members forum, it does seem to me that we all have the right as members to comment on any given post…especially when we believe, in our opinions, that another member has been slighted in some manner, to be able to come to their defense as Cavatica did mine. I am thankful I have all the wonderful supporters as I do here on MoM.

FTW! <3

[Lady Maelin]

Cavatica...not to sound too out of it computer Eee's talk......but what does *FTW* mean?

[Cheryl]

FTW = For the win!

[Lady Maelin]

OOOoooooOOOO... thank you Cheryl...nice to know!!!

[jube]

I'm with you, Lady Maelin, I didn't know either

[Cavatica]

Originally Posted by Lady Maelin

Cavatica...not to sound too out of it computer Eee's talk......but what does *FTW* mean?

I don't know what Computer Eee's is, but yes: in computerese ( ), it's For The Win.

May I suggest Google next time? :P

[Draco]

FTW may stand for For The Win in computerese, but among bikers it stands for F.......... The World. It was that back in the '60s and still is today. Never heard of your version.

But that doesn't make your version wrong.

[edith]

He looks great Maelin, as if he is about to burst out laughing.

I've met physicists in all shapes and sizes, one of the guys who used to be in my boyfriend's section was a power-lifter and he spent his worklife behind a desk, while one of the technicians in my section is tiny (though she's actually a geologist) and she's totally practical

[Lady Maelin]

Edith...I am so very glad that you enjoyed Fandaral...I was hoping you would being a smith yourself.

Draco...thank you for all of us that are *OTS*

[Hans]

OK, this was and IS a thread about Lady Maelin's Fandarel portrait and I expect the discussion to pertain to that as of now.
Sorry, but I will delete and/or move any posts not pertaining to the topic.

If anybody want to discuss music, kindly do so elsewhere. Thank you for your cooperation, it is much appreciated.




ETA: Music posts now moved to the Cafe.

[Draco]

Thank you.

Like I said, I really like Lady M's drawing. I always pictured Fandarel as a very large, bulky man. Not with a body-builder's well-defined physique, but with the physique of a professional weight-lifter. He would need the wide belt to act as a "kidney belt" and back brace because of his work. Perhaps a little round-shouldered or stooped in normal, relaxed stance, because of his life-long work at forge and anvil. In this portrait, he's obviously posing for the artist. Bet he got a shave and haircut for the portrait, as well. Normally he would be too busy to take time off to do more than whack off his hair and beard with a handy pair of shears when it got in his way or got singed from flying sparks.

The artist always tries to flatter the subject for an "official" portrait, thus the ommission of the squint-lines around his eyes, from the years of peering into the fire.

These are definitely not meant to be criticisms. I'm merely putting myself into the books, treating the picture as a commissioned portrait on Pern.

[Lady Maelin]

Draco...no criticisms taken at all...as a matter of fact you gave me a real chuckle imagining Fandarel shaving clean faced for the first time in ages and asking one of his kitchen staff women, if she'd give him a decent Gather hair cut, fitting to represent the Craft hall in his portrait.

Too bad someone didn't tell the artist to move the blackboard, so the flame thrower wouldn't look like it was coming out of his head...AAaaaarrrrgggg....

[StevenB]

Lady Maelin, it's a credit to the quality of your portrait that some of us can look at it and think of it like a photograph.

[Weyrlady]

Too bad someone didn't tell the artist to move the blackboard, so the flame thrower wouldn't look like it was coming out of his head...AAaaaarrrrgggg....

[/QUOTE]
That's okay--I've had cacti coming out of people's heads before. Yay for photoshop!

Anyway, awesome job, Lady M.! As always. . . . Also, the actor Robbie Coltrane may be one to consider for Fandarel? Someone mentioned him in a Pern Casting thread ages ago, and he's who I've kind of 'seen' ever since.

[Lady Maelin]

Steven...Thank you my friend, for the lovely compliment...I'm very happy to know you're enjoying Fandarel.


Weyrlady...Oh Lord...catus coming out of someone's head could be rather painful...but I guess, no more so that a flame thrower
It might have been you and I, that were talking about *Robbie Coltrane* in the character thread...as I have alway thought he would have made a wonderful Fandarel...and I had my eye on him for the longest time...until I say Andre the Giant in this marvelous pose. After that Fandarel took over and the results are what you see.
Thank you very kindly for the wonderful compliment.

[Hans]

Steven... well, I'll be... you're absolutely right and I never even realised that

[DragonBuddy]

Lady Maelin, I love your portrait! Its just how I pictured him! Thanks for sharing your lovely art work!

[Lady Maelin]

Thank you very kindly Dragonbuddy...glad to hear it. I have seen them in my mind for so many years...it's rather nice to have them looking back at me from the wall...this way I say *Hello* once in awhile as I pass by.

[Becky]

I can't believe that I haven't been here in over two weeks! And missed this when it first came out! Better late than never tho.

Andre the Giant was my first impression too when I saw him. But then there are a lot of changes. I read how Maelin made the changes and how he sort of came into his own. Awesome job! I LOVE the haircut! Totally Fandarel! And his thumb is perfect! Good perspective and size....maybe a bit too clean tho, can you imagine the scrubbing he had to endure to get that clean! Anyhoo, another triumphant character of Pern brought to life. Just wonderful, my friend!

[GinnyStar]

You know, to me he standing there thinking of new projects and ideas, mind at work while letting this creation be work on, and I can tell better about what looks like the wand is stick out of his head, but it just happens to be where the plans for making of the needed equipment are at. More like a teaching lesson more then anything else.

[Sandi]

I'm sorry to be so late coming to this wonderful portrait! The attention to details such as the rough surface of the rock wall and the sheen (how'd you do that???) of the mechanical parts almost but not quite distract the eye from the Master himself. A lesser man would have faded into a figure blocking the view but Master Fandarel's commanding presence won't allow that to happen. It's brilliant, my friend. I love it!

[Lady Maelin]

Becky...Thank you for the compliments...glad you ejoyed him so much.

Ginny...Yes it does look a bit like he is thinking of his next project. Thanks, I am glad you like him.


Sandi...Seems your still in time to enjoy Fandarel my dear friend...thank you for your very kind comments.
The rocks I have in several of my drawings, I have played with for quite a while now...until I finally came up with large grain sandpaper...I put a small piece under the paper where the rocks are going to be...and rub gently with one of my colored pencils. The sandpaper roughens up the surface of the paper just a little...so that it will grab each layer of different color a bit differently and it builds up until.... WAA-LA... somewhat realistic looking stones.
As for the flamethrower on the blackboard...shading my dear...years and years of shading......................

[Topaz the Golden]

as usual great work. i really do envy your talent.

[P'ter]

One of the few times that symmetry pays off. If you had placed him off centre, say on golden mean, he wouldn't dominate the way he needs to.

[Lady Maelin]

Topaz...sorry I missed your comments until now...thank you kindly for them and I am very happy that you have enjoyed this portrait.

Peter...thank you dear friend...Fandarel kind of did his own thing in this one...I don't see how he could help but dominate the portrait. He has a way of dominating everything including the room...if only by sheer mass....

[kevia]

Absolutely wonderful! As usual, Lady Maelin. I love it!!

[Lady Maelin]

Kevia...thank you for the compliment...so glad to hear that you enjoyed this one.

[GHarris]

Originally Posted by Golden Talisath

Great work, Maelin!
I know I'm jumping out of topic here, but what happened to that portrait of F'lar we were promised?

Can I second this question?

[P'ter]

He's hiding behind Fandarel.