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Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Jul 18 2016, 03:51 AM
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: Jora

... um.
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Jul 10 2016, 12:50 AM
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Views: 6,091
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Jora

It's possible Manora didn't like her much, either. I get the sense that Weyrwomen don't necessarily socialize with the women of the Lower Caverns, though on the other hand there's nothing that says...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 15 2016, 01:48 AM
Replies: 46
Views: 10,859
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Clutch sizes

I'm not arguing against F'lar's wing being entirely his clutch. We don't know for sure but it's entirely possible. My argument is that you can't use that to prove that organizing wings by clutch is...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 13 2016, 09:15 PM
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: Clutch sizes

I don't think you can cite the social structure of 8th Interval Benden as indicative of how a normal Weyr would work. That was a dying culture struggling for fresh blood and purpose. F'lar very well...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Apr 12 2016, 03:42 AM
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: Clutch sizes

Experienced soldiers raising up baby officers is a longstanding tradition in most militaries. Hasn't caused many mutinies yet. And there's no reason a bronze would go straight from the...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 21 2016, 04:02 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 6,760
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Printer Hall

Probably not. It's not completely useless - makes a good insect repellent in a pinch, and on industrial scales a lot of modern pesticides are nicotine derivatives - but there's not a whole lot else...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Mar 20 2016, 07:40 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 6,760
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Printer Hall

There's also the other thing that used to be called a sheepskin, which the Pernese would almost certainly have figured out how to make in a hurry (though IIRC it wasn't the skin but the gut that you...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Feb 25 2016, 05:12 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 5,882
Posted By pearldiver
Re: The Size of Pern

My headcanon's always been "Earth-sized, give or take." There are a lot of wonderful things about the Pern series, but Anne McCaffrey's math skills aren't one of them. These are the same books that...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Feb 25 2016, 01:59 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 6,760
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Printer Hall

I don't think the Charter survived til the 9th Pass, or even the 6th. Earlier ages of Pern, sure, but by the time Fax came around it seems to be pretty well-accepted that the law is whatever the...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Feb 24 2016, 08:01 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 6,760
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Printer Hall

To be honest, I just tend to ignore the Runnercraft when I think about Pern. It's a late addition to the canon that doesn't jive with the world portrayed in the earlier books.

Though, I guess it...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Feb 23 2016, 04:13 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 6,760
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Printer Hall

I don't think they would. The Harpers, definitely -- that's canon. The Healers, almost certainly. The other Crafts, though, could probably get by very well without literacy.

Why does a master...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Feb 20 2016, 03:20 PM
Replies: 55
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: Printer Hall

I haven't read Todd's books. Do any of them mention how the Pernese lost the printing press? Even with paper being expensive, I'd've thought that would've been one of the technologies they would've...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Feb 20 2016, 03:20 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 6,760
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Printer Hall

I haven't read Todd's books. Do any of them mention how the Pernese lost the printing press? Even with paper being expensive, I'd've thought that would've been one of the technologies they would've...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Feb 20 2016, 02:18 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 2,515
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Weyr Leader and Green Rider

Mirrim's weyrbred. Why would she try to insist on monogamy when dragons are involved? She was raised with the (healthy) expectation that your romantic relationships and the needs of your dragon are...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Dec 3 2015, 12:02 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

Yes, but where's the fun in that?
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Nov 25 2015, 08:07 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

Have to be? There doesn't. It's not a physical law. Most of the vast universe doesn't have religion. I don't have religion. Most of my friends don't.

On the other hand, humans seem to almost...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Oct 10 2015, 08:19 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 3,394
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Comfort Books?

Simple. Masterharper is a story being told by Robinton when he's deep in his cups, about the recent history of Pern starring Robinton! And Renegades is Aramina talking fast to explain herself to...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Oct 9 2015, 09:05 PM
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: Comfort Books?

Dragonsdawn here, too. I really enjoy the sci-fi aspects of Pern, and seeing how things started, knowing what they evolve to be.

And, okay. I like imagining myself as one of the first dragonriders...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 29 2015, 10:41 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

Nope.

To believe that, you'd also have to believe that a flower isn't beautiful because it only lasts a season, that children aren't precious because they grow up, and that the past didn't happen...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 28 2015, 10:06 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

I get the same impression. Everyone intended to be an independent landholder, with Landing or some other centralized location(s) serving as the place where things that couldn't be managed as cottage...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 28 2015, 08:39 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

You're wrong on a couple of points regarding what is and isn't faith, CuriousFlit, but I'm not sure the mods would appreciate it if we turned this thread into an all-out philosophical debate! :D

...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 27 2015, 05:06 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

Neither religion nor superstition requires gods. That's a very narrow view, historically. I doubt the Pernese would reinvent any god or gods that would look familiar to us.
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 27 2015, 12:00 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

I'm just gonna go ahead and distance myself from Gilluin's position right now. The fact that we're both atheists doesn't mean we have the same outlook on anything at all, it turns out.

Gilluin, in...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 24 2015, 10:29 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

Maybe. In reality, I think they'll probably diversify and integrate themselves more into the everyday society of Pern. Dragons are expensive to upkeep, but not so expensive that they can't earn their...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 24 2015, 08:48 PM
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Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

That really depends on who you ask.

That's why the word "I" appears in that sentence.

one could argue that Atheism is in itself a religion

Only if bald is a hair color.

wasn't the whole...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 23 2015, 08:06 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

Well, I'd argue that science has a very solid answer for "what happens when you die": you die. "You" are in your living brain, and once that brain is dead, so are "you." The end. It's not necessarily...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 22 2015, 07:47 PM
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Views: 13,086
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Another big, unanswered question

Polytheistic. Or animist. Maybe shamanistic. Could be ancestor worshipers. (Actually, if I had to put money on a religion taking root on Pern, it would be one based on ancestor-worship, not one...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 20 2015, 09:24 PM
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: Gender on Pern

Yep. Time and place matters. Women were in a pretty bad position on Pern late in the 8th Interval and early in the 9th Pass. Remember the man who was surprised when Lessa took a letter from him,...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 20 2015, 01:43 PM
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Views: 5,037
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Gender on Pern

Lords Holder have a fairly free hand in naming their heirs; I don't think it's written into law that the firstborn son gets everything. I can't see there being many situations where a girl inherits...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 12 2015, 06:57 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 12,001
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Tubberman's Big Cats

That's a good point, Kennet, and definitely a barrier for later Pernese. But as Eriflor pointed out, the colonists had their databanks more or less intact when they moved to Fort, and would have that...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 11 2015, 06:13 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 12,001
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Tubberman's Big Cats

If Thread had held off long enough for them to set up a continent-wide game park/adventure resort, they probably would've also set up facilities to let them manufacture new power packs and repair or...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 11 2015, 04:33 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 12,001
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Tubberman's Big Cats

Yeah, you're right. At that point it becomes a game of "Because Dragonsdawn was written decades after the world had been established as falling into medieval subsistence."
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 10 2015, 07:55 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 12,001
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Tubberman's Big Cats

We don't get a rundown of all the kinds of information stored in those computers, do we? It might not've been a comprehensive copy of their databases. It could just be whatever hard drives they could...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 10 2015, 07:53 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 12,001
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Tubberman's Big Cats

Pern isn't short of metal, but the colonists might very well have been short of metallurgy. On our own world, many ancient civilizations had very sophisticated knowledge of mathematics and physics...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 10 2015, 04:07 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 12,001
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Tubberman's Big Cats

I think they lost a huge amount of knowledge and skill in the first year of Threadfall -- in the first day of Threadfall, even. Entire families were wiped out in a matter of hours, and I don't think...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 10 2015, 02:45 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 12,001
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Tubberman's Big Cats

Huh. That's a really cool idea.

It's plain that the Pern that humans ended up with is not the one the colonists intended. They wanted to live a less-industrial life, but they brought the...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Sep 10 2015, 01:27 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 12,001
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Tubberman's Big Cats

At the level of genetic manipulation the colonists were capable of, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a method to domesticate any animal in their gene banks. (For domestication to stick, you need...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 28 2015, 05:52 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 12,001
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Tubberman's Big Cats

I just assume they brought everything they could get their hands on, when it came to building their gene banks. They're highly, highly unlikely to ever need big cat DNA, and in fact having it along...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 21 2015, 03:46 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 5,037
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Gender on Pern

Feminism as we know it, probably not. The Pernese don't seem to go in for philosophy or much for organized political movements, and they're not big fans of literature, either. You need all of those...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 18 2015, 02:32 AM
Replies: 17
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: Hold Names (spoiler if you havent read Dragonsdawn)

Weyrleader K'vin thinks of himself as "Kevin of the Hanrahans" in a couple of places in Dragonseye, so it seems like a few notable families were still using the name as more of a clan name than a...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 12 2015, 10:43 PM
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: Domick, Petiron, Music on Pern

Well, he'd have to re-invent some of the orchestral instruments, but he could give it a try. Sounds like a worth final project!

(I would love to read that scene in a fanfic, btw, Brenda. If you're...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 8 2015, 03:50 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 12,001
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Tubberman's Big Cats

It doesn't take "breeding like rabbits" to become a problem. Feral pigs have wrecked many an ecosystem where they've been carelessly introduced -- and they're dangerous to humans, too. A herd of wild...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 4 2015, 04:13 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 2,683
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Domick, Petiron, Music on Pern

How many people on Pern can afford a full choir and orchestra to perform Domick's compositions the way they're meant to be done? Whereas every child is taught to sing and whistle by the local Harper,...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 4 2015, 03:55 PM
Replies: 11
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: Thread at night ?

Because the night/day air temperature difference isn't dramatic enough to justify that, especially at the altitude Thread activates. If Thread falls on a cool spring morning as well as a hot summer...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 4 2015, 12:34 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 3,259
Posted By pearldiver
Re: Thread at night ?

Well, I can't say that Thread all freezing at night makes any less sense than night air somehow allowing flightless creatures to fly. There's that.
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 2 2015, 05:08 PM
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: F'lar and Lessa: Why?

That reliance on midwives probably saves at least as many lives as it costs.

The Pernese do seem to have a pretty good grasp on hygiene: wash your hands, disinfect wounds and medical instruments,...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 1 2015, 03:30 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 5,676
Posted By pearldiver
Re: What affects which colors are laid?

It seems pretty unlikely that Lessa was the first person to ever have that idea. F'lar already had a reputation for radicalism (or radical conservatism, if you like, because ultimately he was trying...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Aug 1 2015, 11:58 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 5,676
Posted By pearldiver
Re: What affects which colors are laid?

Which isn't exactly the brightest position to take, given the dragonpower shortage F'lar was facing at the time. Long-term, he's right. Unrestricted green breeding would swamp the Pernese's ability...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Jul 31 2015, 06:53 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 5,676
Posted By pearldiver
Re: What affects which colors are laid?

The very first draft of Pern, the bit that was the novella Weyrsearch, seems to have had golds as the only female dragons. Lytol's dead dragon is referred to as green and male. Female greens were in...
Forum: Dragonriders of Pern Jul 3 2015, 02:03 PM
Replies: 25
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Posted By pearldiver
Re: What If: Jaxom Warns the Colonists

They could also build safeholds in the south and avoid relocating to the Northern Continent entirely, given enough time. The entire Southern Continent isn't volcanic, and it has vastly more arable...
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